To give work notice that I'm close to giving official notice

[DyslexicScientist]

Hi, long time lurker butbive finally plucked up the courage.

Ibrewpoy like the company I work for and the job. However I hate the physical environmental and certain people make my work difficult.

I don't want to go, but I don't think i can carry on working here as is.

Is it a good idea to say in close to giving my notice in and say why? I'm a "professional" and would be difficult to replace. I do worry that it sounds a bit threatening but I really will leave if nothing changes. I'm financially secure, so don't need need the job, but its nice to have regular money coming in.

No, it really is not worth mentioning that you don't need the money!! You've been given good advice here, either explain calmly and in a professional manner what the issues are and perhaps offer some feasible solutions, or start looking elsewhere. But just do it, don't hint that you're intending to do it in the hope that things change.

No, don't say that. It will just annoy people who aren't in that fortunate position. The best way to convince them that you're serious is to be serious, ie put your concerns calmly in writing.
Seconding all those who've said just raise it as something that's preventing you doing your job and ask how it might be resolved. It makes it much easier for managers - and thus more likely to happen - if you can be very specific and realistic about what you'd like to change, too. Good luck, it is horrible being miserable at work - but at least you don't have to feel trapped by it.

If you say "I'm unhappy and thinking of leaving, I don't need the money" then why should they go out of their way to help you when you might quit anyway? You say 'I really like working here but I am struggling to cope with x and y'.

Are you the poster who posted recently about her smelly colleague?

I sounds like you need to have a really frank discussion with your work and raise a compliant if they don't take it seriously. Are you in a union? Can you get advice on this?

Is it worth mentioning that i don't need the money to them?

No. You seem determined to start this conversation with them being clear you could up and leave at a moments notice.

Even if that's true, it's not going to maintain good relationships

If you want to exhaust the options, in a professional way, then put in a formal, written grievance and be specific about what you want to change. The organisation has to respond within a certain time.

Your motivation to work there, eg not just for the money, isn't of relevance to your employer. Anyway, say you don't need the money now, but unless you have independent wealth you might well need income from a paid job at some stage.

Can you get a health and safety assessment about the stale air etc?

Seriously, if you want to piss them off, threaten them with leaving and tell them you don't need the money. Your feet won't touch the floor on your way out.

OTOH, if you genuinely want to improve things and stay there, do not go in swinging; ask calmly for a professional and constructive discussion about issues and possible solutions.

no-one cares, I'm afraid. I am reminded of a long-ago conversation with a guy in personnel who said that the gap you leave is the same as the gap left when you take your hand out of a bucket of water. i.e. none.

gotta love personnel....

if you want to stay and try for an improvement, do that. But it sounds like it isn't worth the effort. Hand in notice.

Do not say you are close to handing you notice in, unless there are things that you want them to do, which might help keep you.

Otherwise, just get a job, and hand notice in. Tick. Done.

I think the only thing you can do is see your boss and tell her/him you are unhappy.
However, you must be prepared for things to get worse if you complain or to give your notice.
They may well say, there's the door then.

Thanks, really value your advice everyone.

Got a meeting next week tobdiscuss. Think I'm going tobaskbfor a sobatical, and hopefully in 6 months theyvwill have found new premises.

That seems to be pushing it too! A sabbatical

The sabbatical is pushing it?

Not sure why i keep missing spaces!

Op I think you have delusions of grandiose

Honestly to be sat in a room with no natural light, no fresh air and personal laughing at you when you complain sounds shit and I'd just leave if you don't need the money.

of a long-ago conversation with a guy in personnel who said that the gap you leave is the same as the gap left when you take your hand out of a bucket of water. i.e. none

How true

Yes but hr / personal are usually shit. They wouldnt notice me gone, but the rest of the team would do and this conversation is nothing to do with them untill I give my notice.

Anyway what's wrong with knowing your a useful member of staff?

What do you think your team will do?

Before I had dd2 I had taught a sport for ten years. I also trained new teachers and coaches, I also mentored them. I also gave three hour work shops on teaching the sport in a fun way. I won awards every year for best endeavour to children ect at the staff awards, I went in to schools and gave water safety talks. I thought I was a very much valued and needed never of staff. When I started to question certain management issues and then put my notice in no one gave two shits. They honestly didn't. I got a half arsed 'will you think about it' . Two weeks later it was like I had never spent a decade there.

There is knowing your a useful member of staff and also knowing that most buisness don't actually give a shit about the human that's filling the roll.

Personally I think you should just go ahead and hand your notice in. You seem very unhappy to be thinking about the things you are.

Most adults would put in a grievance or have an official meeting about their issues and follow procedure. You don't seem to want to do that.

I am not sure why you are attempting to have this conversation based on you holding them over a barrel.

Honestly your team won't kick up such a fuss that things are fixed while you are away.

My team will struggle on without me, we are already overworked and haven't been able to recruit anyone else in 6 months.

Obviously the company don't care about me ,(I've worked in the city before) but they do care about the work I do.

Why am I not happy? I clearly stated I like the job and company, and ffs I've already said I've got a meeting organised!

Jesus. If someone walked into my office and said they were thinking of leaving, didn't need the money and thought they were irreplaceable, I'd walk them to the door myself.

Try and remember to have an adult conversation when you go into your meeting, OP.

What's your boss like OP?

I don't agree that leaving never leaves a hole - I resigned from my job and within a day was offered the opportunity to do the same role on my own terms (v specialist role).

I agree with others that telling your boss you might resign looks like a threat and isn't sensible. But being honest won't hurt, if you leaving would genuinely leave a hole. One of the great things about being somewhat indispensable is that you don't need to be shy about letting managers know what you are not happy about - I find it helps if you are frank but open to compromise (no job or organisation is perfect and some of your issues may not be within your boss's power to resolve).

If you are so valuable ( and I am honestly sure your team does value you) why would the company change things with pressure from your team and not for you, if you speak to them in an adult manner?

Maybe your team will feel annoyed at being put in a position that they have to fight your corner, when you could attempt to do it in a professional and adult manner.

It all sounds like you are throwing your its out of you people and/or stomping your feet.

You want something to change, then speak to them in a rational adult manner without using not so veiled threats.

And the organisation I work for has twice this year attempted to keep people who have resigned - one successfully, because the issue was not financial, the other not, because HR stuffed up the job evaluation and hence the salary renegotiation. This person's departure has left a big hole that will never be filled.