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Do people really consider it unreasonable to eat on the train?

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MyNewBearTotoro · 12/11/2015 09:42

Reading another thread in which a poster mentioned eating on the train and I was really surprised by the responses calling her unreasonable/ antisocial for bringing food onto the train and the vitriol she was facing for this alone.

Do people really consider it unreasonable to eat on the train or is this just one of those 'only on Mumsnet' things?

I know it's not pleasant to be stuck next to someone eating smelly food, but equally lots of things are unpleasant on trains - being crammed in close to a stranger, oversized luggage, crying babies, other people's conversations, air-conditioning to high/low etc - but just because some people may find it unpleasant does that automatically make it unreasonable or anti-social?

In an ideal world people would not bring smelly food onto the train, but in an ideal world neither would people bring on crying babies/ noisy children etc but we are human and we need to eat, especially as many people will be making journeys over several hours long. Choices of food are usually limited by either what is available on board the train or what is available from the shops on/ around the station and sometimes hot or fast food is the only option available.

Obviously hot food is permitted on trains, my local train company has buffet carriages which sell hot food (including bacon rolls) and sandwiches (including tuna fish or egg mayo) for people to buy. So I'm not questioning whether it's allowed but I guess I'm curious as to whether people genuinely think it shouldn't be. And, considering it is allowed, are people who do eat on trains genuinely considered anti-social or unreasonable by some?

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TaliZorah · 13/11/2015 22:53

Hester there's plenty of food that doesn't smell. expat I find it hard to believe there are no foods you can eat that don't smell?!

expatinscotland · 13/11/2015 22:53

'Sorry apples are too noisy aren't they? Bread and...well, bread.'

And water. But don't use the toilet. Because then you might make it stinky and there are germs in there. You could potentially kill everyone in the carriage with your germs.

TaliZorah · 13/11/2015 22:55

expat there's nothing wrong with me for vomiting at bad smells.

I have anxiety problems myself that I don't make other people's, but this is just about having consideration for others when you're in a closed space

HesterShaw · 13/11/2015 22:57

You do know that smells are like colours and people perceive them differently don't you?

I find the smell of lavendar perfectly delightful, but my mother loathes it. My dad thought their new sofa was brown: I saw it as green.

How the fuck are other people supposed to know what might make you "ill"?

expatinscotland · 13/11/2015 22:57

'expat I find it hard to believe there are no foods you can eat that don't smell?!'

Um, all foods smell, Tali. It's just that most people don't give a flying fuck if others eat those foods around them. So believe it or not, I won't ever consider planning my menu around potential special snowflakes who would be better off living in a glass bubble rather than consorting in public where things smell. I plan it first and foremost on low GI, my lactose intolerance, vegetarian and what is tasty and healthy for me to eat, too.

expatinscotland · 13/11/2015 23:00

Tali, several people have told you, based on your own posts, that your level of vomiting is abnormal and to see a doctor.

'I have anxiety problems myself that I don't make other people's, but this is just about having consideration for others when you're in a closed space'

No, this is about a few control freaks thinking they have the right to police what other people do that is entirely acceptable on public transport and being professionally offended and, quite frankly, coming across as rather silly at the least.

TaliZorah · 13/11/2015 23:06

expat I fail to see what a GP could do about it. It's nothing "wrong" with me, it's just how I am. There isn't a cure for vomiting when you smell something.

See I would consider what it smells like. If I was going to be eating on a train I wouldn't take something that was inappropriate. I understand it's hard with diabetes but like I said in sure there are some foods that don't smell badly.

It's antisocial to not wear deodorant. Bad smells in public are antisocial

HesterShaw · 13/11/2015 23:11

Please can you type out a menu so I know what doesn't smell. It will have to be vegetarian. Thanks.

TaliZorah · 13/11/2015 23:12

Hester don't be ridiculous.

expatinscotland · 13/11/2015 23:13

By all means then, carry on being miserable. Hmm Someone mentioned hypnotherapy, CBT, all kinds of things. But you see it as normal, so go for it.

And once again (and again and again and again), what is 'inappropriate' for one person is entirely different for another.

Nothing on my menu, IMO, smells badly. So I will eat take it and eat it. You find that antisocial. Okay. That's fine with me. I give not a fuck about random strangers who think the world should bend over backwards to accommodate their special snowflakiness or they are 'antisocial', rude, whatever. It's food on a fucking train, not world peace.

Some people don't wear deodorant due to skin conditions. I don't automatically assume they are all antisocial.

But hey, it's a free country.

HesterShaw · 13/11/2015 23:14

I'm not! I am genuinely interested to know what foodstuffs you consider to be smell free.

TaliZorah · 13/11/2015 23:24

expat I have had CBT for various reasons. So I don't see how it would help with being sick at smells

Not badly but you understand it does smell? Chilli for example smells like BO.

It's widely accepted that not wearing deodorant is antisocial, as is not showering

Oysterbabe · 13/11/2015 23:26

Chilli smells delicious and nothing like BO.

expatinscotland · 13/11/2015 23:27

'Please can you type out a menu so I know what doesn't smell. It will have to be vegetarian. Thanks.'

And low GI and lactose free.

TaliZorah · 13/11/2015 23:28

Hester for what, picnics?

Some sandwiches
Toast
Fruit
Cakes
Plain crisps
Salad without eggs

stuff like that maybe

TaliZorah · 13/11/2015 23:30

Chilli smells exactly like BO to me

expatinscotland · 13/11/2015 23:31

'Chilli for example smells like BO.'

To you. To others it smells delicious.

I am actually PMSL that you truly expect everyone who uses public transport to plan their journey round your issues. That is absolutely hilarious.

This chilli is delicious, people! It freezes well, too. Or you can make it with beef mince if non-veggie.

meatfree

expatinscotland · 13/11/2015 23:32

That's too bad, Tali. Oh, well, more for us.

TaliZorah · 13/11/2015 23:33

expat even if you think it doesn't smell like BO, you admit it has a smell.

It's not just my issues. It's a wide thing, I know loads of people who also hate smelly food on trains. It really isn't just me

expatinscotland · 13/11/2015 23:37

Well, there's me fucked. Toast, crisps, fruit, cakes . . . fuck my blood sugar up. All the sandwich fillings I can eat are ones you will probably find smelly. I can't win for losing so may as well tuck in to my chilli and enjoy! Definitely cannot go for 10 hours with no food so the train it is.

I always order the vegan option on airplanes, so I don't get anything with lactose. It's usually a pongy curry or Chinese. KLM's is delicious.

expatinscotland · 13/11/2015 23:39

'you admit it has a smell.'

Um, I think you will find that I wrote that all food has a smell. Well, you and your friends can get up and move then. I must admit, I've never seen anyone actually do that, most eye the food hungrily or just, you know, grow up, it's only temporary, it's not like someone is shoving it down your throat.

TaliZorah · 13/11/2015 23:39

So salads, rice, and vegetables also are unacceptable expat?

Who the fuck brings chilli onto a train?! Seriously! You're the first person I've heard of

TaliZorah · 13/11/2015 23:41

I've moved seats. A guy opened up a container that I could literally taste right behind me. I had to leave the carriage.

My mum was with me that day and she also thought it was disgusting. It is not just me!

expatinscotland · 13/11/2015 23:48

'So salads, rice, and vegetables also are unacceptable expat?'

Why, yes, on their own, they are in fact. None has high protein. The protein means I don't spike as much. White rice = ping! I don't eat plain brown rice. Why should I? I add seasoned and cooked veg to it, and nutritional yeast. I add fats and proteins to salads via dressings, eggs and nuts. On such a long journey, protein is essential.

I'm still chortling that some people are so far off in left field they truly believe they have the right to police how others control their serious health conditions via diet because of their over-active sense of smell. At least I admit I have something wrong with me! Diabetes and PTSD.

I bring chilli on a train. You're the first person I've ever heard of who vomits left right and centre every time a fridge door opens. Excepting yours, naturally, that one is special.

Hmm
TaliZorah · 13/11/2015 23:53

expat nuts don't smell as bad as other foods. I'm genuinely interested here, do you have to include protein at every meal? Nothing to do with the topic we're discussing, just a general diabetes question. I imagine that would be really annoying.

It's called being considerate of others. There are loads of things we don't do because it makes others uncomfortable.

Mine doesn't smell because I dont eat smelly food. In fact I hardly ever eat smelly food at all

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