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To ask how much you give to charity?

140 replies

Wibblewobble100 · 11/11/2015 19:49

A TAAT - sorry! Reading the go fund me thread and wondering if I'm really stingy. I give about £200 a year to charity.... £10 month to oxfam, occasional sponsorship / just giving (maybe once every 2-3 months), and if there's a big DEC campaign eg Ebola, Haiti. Other than that it's the occasional coppers in a collection box. I don't generally give to beggars, buy the big issue, give to people collecting in the street or door to door, and I've never received a go fund me request but wouldn't give unless I knew someone really well and was convinced it was 100% genuine. I avoid all telethons (children in need, comic relief etc )like the plague. Am I stingy, how much do you give?

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TowerRavenSeven · 11/11/2015 23:42

Between about $2500 and 3000K

hefzi · 12/11/2015 00:39

I don't give by DD because the costs involved of processing that eat into the overall donation (they get you to sign up at £2/month, in the hope of converting you to a higher gift, basically, but your £24/year goes in bank charges) and I don't give to DEC because there are charities involved that I won't fund (when you work a lot in the developing world, you swiftly become harsh about those who are wasters!) but I give an average of £50/month in cold, hard cash, plus the usual people-asking-for-sponsorship/coffee mornings/collection at church/food bank shops etc, and having just done my end of year expenses (my personal year end is September) it works out about £100 +/- the average month.

I'm also a volunteer with various organisations, which adds up to about 12 (odd) hours a week, round my job, and a trustee for a very small charity. I don't count that as giving, though - I do it for me, not for them: it makes me feel like I'm making a difference, but in fact, there are plenty of people in the world who could do it just as well as I can. I wouldn't give more if I didn't do it: it's not an either or thing.

But I think the point is to give what you feel comfortable with: it's not about being stingy or generous, or even justifying - to yourself or to others - how and why you give. If you want to give more, give more: like the poor, charities are always with us. But don't give more just because you feel you should, either.

hefzi · 12/11/2015 00:43

Oops, forgot to add: those of you who are higher rate tax payers, from memory, I seem to think you can claim tax relief on donations too - life Gift Aid, but for you. Americans have the whole charitable giving thing sewn up so much better than we do, with their 501c3 thing...

Preciousxbane · 12/11/2015 00:48

This year will be approx £500.

I'm not doing it at the moment but I have helped set up a charity and been on charity committees for many years.

lifeinslowmotion · 12/11/2015 00:56

We have to budget very carefully and don't have much left over but I always try to donate when there is a DEC appeal. Also via DS's nursery for Children in Need etc. If I could afford to give more I would.

whois · 12/11/2015 01:00

About 5% of my gross income, give or take.

I domt typically support large charities, I normally support charities that have a very narrow focus and do a lot of direct work. I generally give to uk charities as well.

Kessy2 · 12/11/2015 01:06

$30 a month to charities and same to church.

Kessy2 · 12/11/2015 01:12

I also volunteer about 3 hours each week.

AndNowItsSeven · 12/11/2015 01:14

Kiva is not very good. The recipients of the loans are often paying 100 % interest.

KeyserSophie · 12/11/2015 01:16

If every generous benefactor stopped giving hundreds of pounds every month and decided instead to give their time and energy to a charity, cutting back their work hours and therefore earning less, would the charities benefit more or less?

Interesting question - Very difficult to say. There is a massive lack of skilled volunteers, especially in finance and IT, but most charities that struggle to pay for these services don't need a lot of top level execs. They need skills at middle management level (e.g. set up and monitor accounting processes, build a mobile compatible website etc.) These are the people that are most likely to be time strapped and least likely to have a lot of time to volunteer. Personally, as a funder, I don't like medium sized charities (US$1m +) that rely on volunteers for key positions because there's an inherent lack of accountability. It's like pro-bono. It's great but at the same time, the pro bono client is always the last priority. Once charities get beyond a certain size, they have to be more professional. You can't just say "Oh we filed late because [big 4 accountancy firm] didn't have the capacity to sign off"

Also, it's simplistic to say "work fewer hours, earn less"- with many high paying jobs there isn't a PT option. It's do it, or don't do it. There is an increasing trend for second careers in the NGO sector amongst people who have made a packet and retired in their forties. Some are extremely effective (John Wood from Room to Read for example) due to the expertise, strategic focus and attention to governance that they bring with them. Others less so. The thing about people who have worked at the highest level is that they are basically not interested in doing the hands on stuff- they're mainly interested in strategy and driving sector wide change.

Re admin costs, some charities take the piss. That's clear. However, I'm always very cautious of "every penny goes to the beneficiaries" especially in disaster response situations. When the Filipino typhoon happened, loads of HK expat wives who think they know best slagged off the big charities and did a huge "in kind" drive and shipped it themselves. They were shipping dried noodles to the Philippines FGS. Then it all sat in an aircraft hangar at Manila airport and rotted because there was no logistical support (surprise!). My favourite quote was "But what use is money?". The thing about big organisations like The Red Cross is that they have tents and trucks and, critically, relationships with governments and local companies and the military. You cannot underestimate the importance of relationships, especially in international development work.

Anyway, in my work and personally, my preference is for well established mid-sized charities with proven impact (not outputs) and a strategic CEO who are looking to scale in a cost effective way.

Mistigri · 12/11/2015 06:49

I used to give a fair amount to several big charities including MSF, Unicef and the Red Cross (a few hundred a year).

The complete failure of the big NGOs to step up to the plate in the refugee crisis has made me radically review my giving, and I've been sending money and supplies directly to volunteer groups and even individual volunteers, in Lesbos and in Calais. (The only charity that any of the Greek volunteer groups seems to have anything good to say about is Oxfam).

It's not as tax efficient as giving to a charity, and there is a bigger risk that the money will not be spent wisely (though I choose carefully - eg someone I have got to know personally who is working with refugee kids in Dunkerque, the Spanish lifeguard team who have been very active in inshore rescues on Lesbos). I don't have the time to give at the moment so it's the best I can do.

Kangenchunga · 12/11/2015 07:21

Little d/d to a few horse charities, then some to a couple of cancer charities, Water Aid etc.

I always give to Children in Need, Comic Relief, Sports Relief, all the DEC appeals plus always sponsor people fundraising. They have to actually 'do' something hard (for them) though.

StampyMum · 12/11/2015 07:44

I have a fairly low income, because I only work two days a week. (Very happy with all those days off tho Grin ) I give by DD £10 a month to Marie Curie, £5 to Red Cross, from my salary £5 to Oxfam, quite a bit to the Labour Party, about £10-20 to my church, then donations to appeals when they come up. I hate things like shoebox appeals or filling a rucksack with stuff for a homeless person - I'd rather give some money to a charity I trust and let them spend it on what they want. But the JL/Women's Aid present thing sounds nice - I'll probably do that, so thanks for the tip.

londonrach · 12/11/2015 07:44

I will never do dd as i dont give my details to charties. As you can see from previous threads we have lived on £20-30 per week food and everything so i really dont have any spare money. However i do support my local hospice but sadly will do that anno now as since then ive got several gifts sent me. Hopefully my name will dop off their list if i do things anno. I do give good quality items to charity shops which they resell but refuse giftaid since i know of a friend of my mum who had a bill from the tax office for £20 for items she donated. Slightly shocked giftaid is watched that carefully. Tbh i tend to support family and friends before charities now. If i had more spare money i support charity.

HearTheThunderRoar · 12/11/2015 07:46

Nothing but DD and I give up large amounts of our time for surf life saving (we're in NZ). I have been the treasurer for our local club for the past 5 years, both DD and I have been life guards for the past 2 years and she's there every Sunday morning rain or shine helping with training for the nippers. Last year DD did 42 hours volunteering in 3 months.

Only obviously the odd dollar here and there for various charities when the fundraising on the street etc.

HearTheThunderRoar · 12/11/2015 07:47

Oh and don't I donate as I cannot afford it, I also work ft on top off all that too.

BadLad · 12/11/2015 08:02

Because I think it's a damned cheek to stop people in the street and guilt trip them.

VulcanWoman · 12/11/2015 08:40

workingitoutasIgo hope they enjoyed the $$$$$$$ of food I'm sure they consumed.

VulcanWoman · 12/11/2015 08:41

Oh yeah and the Ball Gowns they were wearing.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 12/11/2015 09:15

I donate very little as I don't believe the money always goes to the right places. At the moment the charities I'm donating to are Born Free and Celia Hammond. I've donated to others in the past but as soon as they start hassling me to increase my donations (e.g. Guide Dogs, Battersea) I stop the direct debit and no longer donate to them.

WorkingItOutAsIGo · 12/11/2015 09:37

Vulcan, last time I looked it wasn't illegal for people to spend their own money on things they want to spend it on. You write as if you think everyone should give all their money away and if they don't they are morally reprehensible. That's just not the way the world is. I'd rather see the good that people do and encourage them to do more of it, than lambast them for not giving everything away.

VulcanWoman · 12/11/2015 09:44

You're are right, that's not the way the world is unfortunately.

Bambambini · 12/11/2015 09:57

this year about £3000 but other years much less. It depends and we sometimes give bigger amounts to for specific individual local cases that crop up.

Ftoz · 12/11/2015 10:31

Zero, I pay my taxes have a few abroad holidays, drive a nice car, have nice clothes and I'm in debt.

IfYouCantSeeMyMirrors · 12/11/2015 11:55

I'm wondering about the 'giving 10% of your income'. I'd love it all to be that cut and dried. But surely, if you have say, three kids rather than two, or hefty travelling costs, instead of working round the corner, then the money you have available is just much less. If our family wanted to give 10% of our income, then we'd have to stop putting money in my pension and stop paying for children's living expenses at university. That doesn't seem to make any sense to me. How about this way of calculating a good amount to give to charity: to give the equivalent you would spend in socialising each year? After all, you can always socialise less. And if you can't afford to socialise at all, then you can't afford to give. Would that work?