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WWYD: when do disagreements and teasing between (so called) friends become bullying?

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IdBuyThatForADollar · 11/11/2015 13:02

My DD(9) is having issues with a friend at school. Twice a week, on average, she comes home with a story of something her friend has said to her that is a bit mean or unkind. This week it has been that my DD (who'd just been made captain for a match) 'needs to up her game to avoid being dropped from the netball team because the PE teacher says she is the worst' and on hearing about my DD's bad back (TBF - my DD is a dreadful drama queen about injuries) that she 'probably had a terrible disease that will kill her'.

Now, for the sake of utter honesty, my DD is able to hold her own in a conversation, she's not deliberately mean, but she can be quite definite and strong willed. I can't tell from her description of these comments whether they are part of 'robust' chat or come somewhat out of nowhere. I'm inclined to the latter lately, and the frequency of these sorts of comments are increasing. The comments do upset my DD.

Also, at the end of the summer term (the last day), the same friend took a favoured pencil (stationery is important in our family!) from my DD and said she wouldn't give it back or be my DD's friend anymore unless my DD 'crawled on her belly in the dirt'. My DD, cut from sterner and more resilient cloth than me, refused to do so and that was the end of that. She was upset, but it was the very end of term so I couldn't get in to see her form tutor until the beginning of the autumn term by which time DD wanted to leave it and see how things were. Things have been ok, but seem to be deteriorating again as the frequency of the little comments seems to be ramping up.

Last term there was also one other issue with the same friend and some other girls who wouldn't let DD play with them as she didn't 'have the same colour skin as them'. That incident the school were aware of as it all got a bit heated, but nothing really came of it and everything seemed to calm down.

I've been taking the 'if people are mean to you, then they aren't worth wasting your valuable time on, be grateful they've shown you who they are and move on' line up until now. However, my DD can be easily worried and stressed about some things (although she'll hide it) and a lot of the latest comments are eating away at her. It's also a v small year group - 19 in the year, all in one class - so there's no real getting away from it.

I don't like to make a huge deal out of playground falling outs, but this is starting to feel a bit meaner spirited than that. Would you, in my situation, start raising it with the school? DD has mentioned some individual comments to some teachers (e.g. she asked the PE teacher about her place on the team) but hasn't framed it as an ongoing situation.

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IdBuyThatForADollar · 11/11/2015 13:26

Sorry - that's ridiculously long.

Tl;dr - another child is being mean to my child. I feel mildly outraged and want to raise it with the school but am worried I am overreacting.

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Enjolrass · 11/11/2015 13:33

Tbf either your dd is as bad or she is being bullied.

Speak to the school. Ask them what, from their point of view, is happening.

Just be prepared to hear your dd is just as much to blame and done or said things.

Enjolrass · 11/11/2015 13:33

Sorry that should have said speak to the school regardless of wether it's 50:50 or dd is being bullied.

howabout · 11/11/2015 13:39

Really difficult to tell how one sided it is and much harder to deal with in a small year group. I just wanted to say it is very normal for 9 year olds. If you think it is starting to have a day to day impact on your DD I would be inclined to make an appointment with the teacher.

Lostcat2 · 11/11/2015 13:43

Good on your dd for ignoring the crawling on belly.

To be honest she seems well capable of holding her own and before you jump in I would ask her if she wants you to involve school.

If yes then be prepared to be open minded and for both girls to be bollocked.

I favoured martial arts for my dcs around 9. Teaches them confidence.

KERALA1 · 11/11/2015 13:52

DH has drummed into our DDs that if a friend is consistently unkind they are not your friend and you dump them. I initially found this quite black and white, but actually over the years, think he is right. Both girls (now 7 and 9) have had "friends" that were consistently unkind and would say things, often, for the sole purpose of upsetting them. Both my DDs have, totally and brutally, dumped these "friends" to the upset of them (and their parents).

But good. Its a good life lesson for the dumped friend - if you are mean people don't want to hang out with you. And looking at the relationships board, giving girls the message that you don't put up with unkind behaviour however good the friendship can be at other times is quite valuable.

IdBuyThatForADollar · 11/11/2015 14:05

Yes, I am prepared for the school to tell me it's 6 of one and half a dozen of another. I try not to be too PFB. Though there's been no hint of meanness in my DD's school life up until now. She gets praise at Parents' Evenings for her kindness, thoughtfulness and maturity in her friendships. God, that looks like the world's worst stealth boast, but it's true.

Kerala - that's the line I've sort of been taking and my DP has taken v. firmly.

I think that I'm worried that I've let some quite unpleasant stuff that's happened to DD go because she is reasonably capable of coping, but just because she can cope, I'm no longer sure that she should have to.

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KERALA1 · 11/11/2015 14:26

Exactly. And I also don't want to be one of "those" mothers that cannot believe her little darling can ever do anything wrong.

But I have shamelessly earwigged when children come to tea and I can tell you that in the friendships both my dds have now all parties are essentially kind to each other, there is no intentional cruelty. The girls my DDs dumped were very different. When you see your child standing there baffled and at a loss because of cruel comments its hard to take. And they shouldn't be putting up with it not - on an ongoing basis anyway. I want my girls to have high standards and literally not put up with being treated badly.

catfordbetty · 11/11/2015 14:32

I think you should trust your judgement about the way this situation has become more serious and speak to the school. The smallness of the group and therefore the difficulty of simply avoiding nasty behaviour is a legitimate concern.

blobbityblob · 11/11/2015 14:40

I guess I'd decide whether to speak to the teacher on the basis of is my dd sufficiently upset about it. Often I am outraged by what people have said/done but dd isn't particularly bothered. But if it's leading to exclusion and I feel her confidence is being sapped, I'd go in then.

But none of my 10 year old dd's friends are consisently "nice". They're mostly nice but they have their moments.

Does she have other friends or is she a bit reliant on this one?

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