to have given the old lady a mouthful when she let her dog crap in my front garden?

[Winniethewylde]

I was just walking up to my front door and I don't think she saw me approaching but still. She said she'd been making him wait, he was desperate and she'd clean it up. I feel angry and pointed out that my kids play there. Surely this isn't normal behaviour for dog owners?

Typical aggressive, defensive dog owner. Please don't tar us all with the same brush. I live, like a PP, in a new estate that has covenants that state no fences for front gardens. My dog is not allowed on anyone's property but ours, but someone keeps letting their dog poo in our front garden. I'm fed up of it, quite frankly, I pick up after my dog, why on earth can't they pick up after theirs?

I've got quite a long grassed front garden, 2 car lengths of driveway with similar width/length of grass. It's a mainish road in the village so frequented by many dog walkers. More times than I can count I have found dog mess near my front door. Who let's their dog go that far onto someone's front garden to shit and also not clear it up?? I've got 2 children one of whom is an oblivious toddler. It can't be because they can't see it as it's a wide open frontage and we have a night security light so they'd be lit up whilst doing it. YANBU.

I consider the first 24 inches on property to be fair game for dogs, provided you clean it up. Anywhere past that is unacceptable. Dogs should be crapping close to the sidewalk as possible, but not on the actual sidewalks.

I would be upset if a dog went further than a couple feet into my yard to crap. As it is, I'm stuck cleaning up after feral cats so DD doesn't step in it while playing outside.

Why don't dog owners train their dogs to shit in their own gardens? There's no need for dogs to shit in the street or people's drives/gardens.

Guide dogs are trained to shit on newspaper at home - it isn't that hard.

I do like how a lot of MN-ers will walk past 10 squatting cats to berate a dog owner though....

If I'm wrong, please share the secret of how you keep cats from crapping in yours - I've never had a dog crap on my front garden (even mine) but am continually digging catshit out when gardening.

My cat has never crapped in anyone's garden she's an indoor cat . My previous cat went outdoors but was litter trained and would come back in to use the tray.

My neighbours happily let their dog crap where ever it likes, including in my front and back gardens. It really pisses me off.

MythicalKing Guide dogs are trained to poo on gravel or concrete (I board Guide dog pups).

My friend is a puppy walker and she trains them on newspaper.

My neighbours happily let their dog crap where ever it likes, including in my front and back gardens. It really pisses me off.

See, I can't understand why you haven't had a go at them and if that hasn't worked why you aren't just relocating it to their garden/doorstep.

You're pissed off now - may as well piss them off if they're going to be idiots.

you probably shouldnt shout at old ladies however, you might have upset her, given her a heart attack.

guidedogs might be trained but sometimes accidents happen and they need to go while out.

That's just sometimes. though, Noah. I suspect most dog owners take them out to shit so they don't have to deal with it at home. It's antisocial.

Guide dogs are trained to shit on newspaper at home

I have a guide dog and that's not true. It might be a part of house-training guide dog puppies, I haven't done that, and I can see it would be a useful way of teaching the puppy to "go" in a specific area, before transitioning to an outside area.

Adult guide dogs go in a specific outdoor area at home, usually fenced off. They have a strict routine of being taken to this area at the same regular times each day, and also before/after going out to work in harness.

Despite this, as Nosh says, they are not robots and on occasion they do need to go while working. Mine lets me know by stopping stock still and turning round towards me (with a pleading expression apparently :) ). I take him to the kerbside and he goes in the road next to the pavement, then I clear it up (which is a little bit stressful but I manage).

Guide dogs will also "go" outdoors when on a "free run" (regular off-lead run for fun and exercise), which of course would be done in a suitable area. I try to always have someone sighted with me for these in order to pick up, as it's harder to locate.

Yanbu, so she made him wait, then let him go into your front garden and crap. Silly woman. My garden is on a main road, it has bushes separating it from the communal path, and a path leading to my front door. The amount of crap I find on my lawn is awful, lazy idiots not cleaning it up.

No she was in the wrong you weren't.

We have 3 dogs and our DS17 walks them once a day for us and DH walks them once a day as well(so 2 walks)and our son would never let our Dogs do that so an adult really should no better.