To think the point of work is to do the least to get the most money, to enjoy other areas of your life

[JeffsanArsehole]

Even if you love your job (like I do)

Surely for most people in jobs they love/enjoy want to get enough money to live/have a family/have hobbies ?

And for the vast majority of folk in jobs they don't love and are paid poorly it applies even more?

Where did this idea come from that we should be grateful to work 50/60/70 hours a week for crap money just to feed our children and scrape through come from?

So even though I love my job and it's well paid I don't want to spend more than 40 hours doing it. As I like other things even more.

If that is your opinion towards your work then of course that is your choice to make. I'm a teacher. I'm in my classroom from 7 - 5 every day then I work in the evenings when my children are in bed. Am I doing it for the money? You must be joking.

It all well and good suggesting that people can do the minimum in order to live live to the fullest, but what about teachers, nurses, doctors, social services, government workers etc. What would happen if these people did the minimum required wrk?

What always strikes me as odd, particularly for really shit jobs (low wage, long hours, treated like crap etc), is that during the interview you will be asked 'why do you want this job?' and you have to go thru a ridiculous charade and not say 'well for the money obviously'. You have to say something like 'ooh it's always been my dream to be shouted at all day by angry people while i can only apologise' or 'i really want to work for a company who time toilet breaks and make staff make them up' or 'Because i love being called into the managers office for breathing too heavily when i am in pain and 8 months pregnant, the 7.50pounds per hour is just incidental isn't it? '. They know you are lying and you know you are lying so why can't you just say it? Everyone looks ernest and nods along. It's a crock of shit.

I think this attitude is why women often don't do as well as men in the workplace long term and my mums and part-time people are written off as uncommitted.

Where I work, there are quite a lot of part timers, mostly semi retired ex servicemen topping up their pensions. As there's no career progression for HGV drivers, we all bimble along on £120 per day, and annoy the management by sticking to the letter of the law.

I actually had an interview with my current customer years ago, at which much bullshit about teamwork and going the extra mile was spouted. I'm afraid I laughed openly. Now I work for them on zero days, and when we piss each other off too much I go and do containers for a bit. I might have to do it again as they've started offering me permanent status.

OP YANBU. Life's too short to brown nose through the daily grind.

I have alway had a similar attitude to the OP, I was never seen as uncommitted or work shy, in fact one of my last roles in teaching was looking at how to reduce workload and stress precisely because I never saw working long hours as having inherent virtue"

But why do you need to be 'committed' to work somewhere (making me think of 'you don't have to be mad yo work here' signs ). Surely just selling 40hrs of your time and working hard is enough for lots of jobs. Why do we all have to get wrapped up in this work speak? I think its filtered down from jobs which need that level of input and pay accordingly. Middle managers have done some wanky training courses and decided to apply the same expectations on staff at the bottom, who just have 'jobs' to those at the top who have careers.

its also a way of under staffing. You get everyone to give (150% 200% 1000% like the one of those Muppets on the apprentice) 20hrs extra a week from 2 people saves one whole ft employee.

its been raised to me before that my colleagues do more work than me. Ie they get in earlier, work thru lunch and stay a couple of hours later. I have said i do the amount of work i can in the time i am paid to work and have been told i should work the same extra hours to be on par because the role now has been set to include that amount of work even tho at 40 hrs a week it couldn't be done. My colleagues were single and lived locally, i had a 2 hr commute. Tough shit tho. Do all that for 16,500 per year working in Central London because you have the incredible luck to be working for a prestigious gallery. Apparently we should all just be grateful.

I do think that 40 hour weeks in most professional jobs is a thing of the past and I do think that is a sad thing. As a teacher I was lucky that it probably averaged out at 40 hours when you took into count holidays and weekends.

I was often told that people worked harder than me, but if I got the same results it suggests the person working mad hours needs to reflect and not me.

I think this attitude is why women often don't do as well as men in the workplace long term and my mums and part-time people are written off as uncommitted.

I was thinking the same - the question of 'why aren't there more female CEOs?' is often raised. Of course, this is only a small sample of opinions, and probably from more family-oriented people.

But why do you need to be 'committed' to work somewhere

I don't think you do - it depends on your goals. There is absolutely nothing wrong with aiming for a more balanced work:life ration. However, if a person's goal is career progression then commitment is very likely going to be required. Each to their own, and some of those people see work to be an end in itself.

I was often told that people worked harder than me, but if I got the same results it suggests the person working mad hours needs to reflect and not me.

Pertinent point, "work smarter, not harder."