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to be shocked at the BBC's misrepresentation

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RickRoll · 24/10/2015 19:11

Official report from BBC:

You can see there is video, up to 0:53. At 0:42-0:49, you see a woman in a headscarf and denim jacket, next to a man in a grey shirt, holding a baby.

Then, strangely, the video is cut, and there are 30 seconds of still images of the same man, woman and baby on the tracks, apparently having been assaulted by the evil Hungarian police, with the voiceover

"and then a really distressing incident happened, the woman who was carrying a small baby began crying for help.
one of her companions tried to help her.

somehow there became a push and shove with the police and she was ended up on the railway lines"

The actual video of the incident shows a completely different story:

the man throws the woman (his wife, presumably), and baby onto the railway tracks, while he shouts aggressively, whereupon the police understandably handcuff him, and get the woman and child off the railway line.

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Ellreejee3 · 25/10/2015 08:29

I think Russia today is less dishonest than the BBC these days!

Longtalljosie · 25/10/2015 08:35

What an extraordinary thing to say Ellrejee3. In what way?

Axekick · 25/10/2015 08:52

They are constantly being criticised for being too left wing.

Agree with this

stoppingbywoods · 25/10/2015 09:34

I don't interpret this in the same way as you, OP.

I think it's entirely possible that the reporter did not see what actually happened - he doesn't claim to give an eye-witness account and is clearly piecing things together - 'there was a push and a shove'. Reporters cannot give an eye-witness account of absolutely everything they report on. In the absence of having seen it for themselves, they have to give the story that there is some kind of consensus about.

The male refugee in question is clearly in the grip of some kind of mental episode. His behaviour was erratic and unexpected. A reporter could be forgiven for not factoring his actions into the likely narrative of what had happened.

I would be interested to hear the reporter's reactions after he'd had the opportunity to view the footage but I wouldn't assume that he hadn't seen it. I disagree that the reporting of the refugee crisis has been biased.

Jux · 25/10/2015 12:20

I see the same as stoppingbywoods. If you're reporting what you're seeing you won't immediately get exactly what happened. The reporter didn't misrepresent what happened at all.

RickRoll · 25/10/2015 12:26

the incident was extensively videoed and photographed though. so not only did the reporter misrepresent it, the photographer, or more likely, the person who chose the photos, also misrepresented it.

it's plausible that the reporter made an error, but the photographs chosen are also misleading. that is not a coincidence.

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RickRoll · 25/10/2015 12:38

They misrepresented this incident all over the place.

Here:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-34136615

"Scuffle at Hungarian train station
Posted at 12:48
There are some dramatic images coming in showing a scuffle between police and a migrant at Bicske train station in Hungary.

The incident happened when riot police tried to get migrants off the train travelling from Keleti station in Budapest"

Also here:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34142512

there is a photo of the man, with the caption "Police detained some of those on board and ordered journalists out of the area"

appearing that the brutal fascist Hungarian police were assaulting the man and arresting him, for no reason.

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Longtalljosie · 25/10/2015 13:37

Nothing written in your last post is untrue though. Nthose are all statements of fact.

And I would argue the fact that journalists were ordered out of the area explains totally why civilian mobile phone footage might have captured something the journalists didn't...

DoctorTwo · 25/10/2015 14:07

Another time the BBC decided what the news wasn't. They deleted a video from their site because it didn't fit the official narrative. They do it all the time.

RickRoll · 25/10/2015 17:07

"And I would argue the fact that journalists were ordered out of the area explains totally why civilian mobile phone footage might have captured something the journalists didn't"

What are you talking about? There is a man with a microphone, and a video camera clearly in the shot, as well as long-lens SLR cameras, when the man throws his wife+child on the tracks. Civilian mobile phone footage doesn't involve professional cameras, microphones and SLRs.

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Booyaka · 25/10/2015 17:38

They had a report a few weeks ago about Somalian pirates and the fact that they have been cracked down and can no longer operate. You know, the really violent lads, tend to murder and kindap people and keep them in cages for ransom. Links with Islamic extremists.

The BBC was reporting it as though piratism was a perfectly legitimate career choice which was being unfairly persecuted. There were lots of sympathetic head nodding interviews with the Pirates who who were described as being 'forced into unemployment' by the crackdown. It was also presented as a benevolent, charitable enterprise designed to help their communities.

They really are shockingly biased.

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