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A carton of soup and two slices of bread should not have my daily salt allowance and half of my sugar allowance

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Marue · 17/10/2015 21:00

I'm a bit in shock, just worked out that by having a soup with bread I've had just over my salt allowance and half of my sugar allowance for the day in one snack!

I know your only supposed to eat half of the carton, but they aren't very big and one carton equals about one bowl.

It was a Thai style soup, it was just OK nothing special!

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Marue · 18/10/2015 20:06

Your diet is probably excellent as you stopped eating canned soup 20 years ago!

Something that can last years without refrigeration can't contain much good stuff.

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limitedperiodonly · 18/10/2015 20:09

Oh, sorry, I didn't realise you were a strictly carton-soup kind of girl OP.

You can't trust any of these soup bastards.

If you need proof, see above for my distressing experience with the Covent Carton Soup Company.

ps don't even think about Cup-A-Soup. You'll need therapy.

BabyGanoush · 18/10/2015 20:11

canned soup awful? BuT Heinz cream of tomatoes is niiiiiiice

full of salt and sugar

love it

Marue · 18/10/2015 20:13

Oh I won't trust any of them in future. It was a long day, I was tired. I'm 98% homemade

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EponasWildDaughter · 18/10/2015 20:15

I thought canned food kept for longer because of the sterile conditions achieved within the can. Not necessarily because of any particular preservatives or ingredients.

Sparklingbrook · 18/10/2015 20:16

So you are going to join the make your own brigade?

TheIncomparableDejahThoris · 18/10/2015 20:20

I recommend Baxters soup. Tastes lovely and they do offers on the small cans in my local 99p shop.

Bunbaker · 18/10/2015 20:24

"I can't believe any single person has half the carton a meal."

Can't you? If I buy a carton of soup OH and I share it for lunch. I assume you mean a carton the size of a New Covent Garden soup.

As for having a whole carton and two sliced of bread, that isn't a snack, it is a sizeable meal for me.

TheIncomparableDejahThoris · 18/10/2015 20:28
Marue · 18/10/2015 20:36

Can't you? If I buy a carton of soup OH and I share it for lunch.

I said single person

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whatsthatcomingoverthehill · 18/10/2015 20:53

I'm getting rather fed up with the over emphasis in sugar. Whilst it's probably not a good idea to have too much, the way the media reports it we are consuming more and more of the stuff. We're not. Difficult to get exact figures but consumption now is about as low as any time in the last 100 odd years.

ilovesooty · 18/10/2015 20:57

I like canned soup. According to the OP my diet must automatically be awful. Wink

Ricardian · 18/10/2015 23:04

Indeed, what's that. It's instructive to look at the World War 2 ration to get a snapshot what what limitations were applied beyond which people would, left to their own devices, buy more, and which led to the generation born around that time being far healthier and better nourished than their parents' generation.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationing_in_the_United_Kingdom#Food_rations

Half a pound a week of refined sugar was as low as it got, at times a pound and there was, although I can't find a reference immediately, provision for extra sugar in jam-making season. You could buy substantial amounts of jam and particularly marmalade (ie, sugar) on top. Yes, sugar is calorie-dense to transport and easy to grow (in the form of sugar beet) in the UK, and if one of your problems is getting enough calories into people to survive a war economy sugar's not a bad way to do it. But it's reflective of the diet of the era, too.

UncertainSmile · 18/10/2015 23:19

Fuck it. Who wants to live long enough to develop dementia anyway?

Marue · 19/10/2015 07:59

Fuck it. Who wants to live long enough to develop dementia anyway?

Come back in 20 years and say that! Dementia is a disease not part of getting old.

People that neglect their health and end up with a decade or two of pain and discomfort very much do regret it, but by then its too late.

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UncertainSmile · 19/10/2015 08:34

People that neglect their health and end up with a decade or two of pain and discomfort very much do regret it, but by then its too late.

Avoiding sugar and salt isn't going to help you avoid arthritis. Salt can contribute to hypertension; not painful in itself. Too much sugar? Tooth decay perhaps. Faddy diets aren't going to stop the inevitable effects of ageing, you can't change your genetic predisposition to disease.

Marue · 19/10/2015 08:36

To be fair that was a general statement about health, not about salt / sugar

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MackerelOfFact · 19/10/2015 08:48

YANBU. It's pretty outrageous. Obviously the majority of MNers can make themselves homemade soup with veg from their garden and stock from the free range chicken that fed them for a month, and it only takes them three and a half minutes and contains 70,000% of their RDA of all known vitamins.

But back in the real world, most people will reach for pre-prepared food at least once in a while, and there's no need for them to contain the amount of sugar and salt that they do, and no incentive for manufacturers to stop putting so much in. Sugar and salt cost next to nothing and make things tastier, so it's win-win as far as they're concerned. Especially when they can boast that the product is 'FAT FREE!' on the packaging, fooling consumers into thinking it's healthy, when it's actually got about 9 teaspoons of sugar in it.

noeffingidea · 19/10/2015 08:53

uncertainsmile while hypertension isn't 'painful in itself' it does have some serious complications www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Blood-pressure-(high)/Pages/Complications.aspx
Good reasons for reducing salt intake.
As for sugar, I agree with whatsthatcomingoverthehill to some extent. It is true that people used to eat an awful lot of sugar. Nearly everyone put sugar on cereal, 2 sugars in tea or coffee, even sugar on fresh fruit. Our family of 7 used to get through 3 x 2 bags of sugar a week. Though we did eat less (not none) processed food.

ChinaSorrows · 19/10/2015 09:32

Back to the original point.
A whole carton of New Covent Garden soup and two slices of bread is an enormous meal, not a snack.

I am not a skinny minny or a tiny portion person. Honestly. But when I worked in an office I would regularly buy those soups and I would only ever eat 1/2 of one for lunch, and the rest the following day and not with bread. Maybe a couple of crackers if I was really hungry.

They're not selling you a meal which exceeds your recommended salt and sugar allowances, you're overeating and doing it to yourself.

Also. The Thai one's not the best. The standard chicken soup is amazing and the chicken and rice one. Mmm!

I really want soup now!

Artandco · 19/10/2015 09:33

Mackerel - no I buy my vegetables, but it really it just chop some veg and add stock to make the majority of soups. I'm horrified not by the ingredients of ready made fresh soup but the cost! A pot of fresh soup is £2-3 per pot so that's for 1-2 people. For £3 I can make enough soup for all of us to each and freeze about 10 portions. So £3 v £30+ for soup

noeffingidea · 19/10/2015 10:04

I wouldn't call that an 'enormous' meal, either,Chinasorrows. Though I don't know hat the calories are. My calorie rquirement is about 1900, so I would consider 6 or 700 calories an average meal.t's big, but to me an enormous meal would be something like a 3 course dinner.

noeffingidea · 19/10/2015 10:09

Just checked the calories for covent garden thai chicken soup. 498 cals to one carton, 2 slices of bread 160 (approx) . I would count that as my main meal, not a snack.

PaulAnkaTheDog · 19/10/2015 10:13

Surely one of those cartons isn't a single portion? Are they not two portions?

Marue · 19/10/2015 10:14

Enormous meal Confused the soup was 180 calories for the whole tub, a "skinny" version, it was mostly water and just filled an average bowl!

When I said a snack I did mean more a post dinner evening snack after a busy and active day. Have dinner at 5-6 and sometimes need something else before going to bed

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