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To think this article is completely women shaming.

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ACoolDad · 15/10/2015 19:42

I read the Daily Mail on my way home from work, it goes against my political views but I read it because it is easy to read on a phone compared to say the guardian.

Today I read an article on women wanting six packs (I work in the fitness industry) and it was just completely bonkers and women shaming even the top comments by Daily Mail readers were against the article.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3272833/Why-women-suddenly-want-six-packs-Today-s-stars-post-six-pack-pictures-young-women-eschewing-waists-curves-muscles.html

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LovelyFriend · 15/10/2015 19:45

I've got a blocker on DM and no longer read it cause of all the hate.
THe Guardian AP is pretty good though.

Allbymyselfagain · 15/10/2015 19:46

Read this last night. I'm one of those women who want muscles and a six pack. Didn't recognise a single reason why I or any of my body building friends do what we do in that article. We don't want to look tough or be as strong as men. Muscles are definitely not a fuck you to any man we meet. We just love OCR, Marathons and triathlons. I thought this article would be on here at some point. More stupid daily fail non news!

Sparklingbrook · 15/10/2015 19:47

It's the Daily mail. I don't even want to click.

MrsTerryPratchett · 15/10/2015 19:49

The DM? Woman-shaming? In other news, WATER IS WET. Stop giving them money.

ACoolDad · 15/10/2015 19:54

I don't mean as the app is bad, its that the dm has more stuff that can be easily read without much thinking.

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MrsTerryPratchett · 15/10/2015 19:58

And there was me thinking you liked thinking ACoolDad

Lurkedforever1 · 15/10/2015 19:59

I've just poisoned by web history by reading the link. Not suprised they would print this shit. The mail already has me stereotyped as the parent with 11 kids from different dads, a lovely house and 70k of benefits by dint of being a single mum. I might as well be masculine by dint of having little fat and muscular abs. They even managed a dig about being skinny. Shame they couldn't have worked in an immigrant or Muslim aspect and offended everyone at once.

MuttonDressedAsGoose · 15/10/2015 20:08

Moaning about the DM is beside the point. The fact is, the article reflects what many people think.

I found it interesting.

First, the idea that a lean, muscular body isn't appealing to men.... I don't think that's true. Plenty of men love that look. Plenty others prefer soft and plump or skinny.

Second, I saw no "six packs" in those photos. Davina comes closest. But pretty much any woman with little fat on her belly will have defined abs. A true "six pack" requires some serious work to achieve. I'm talking about lots of training and weighing your food with a sharp eye on the ratios of protein to carbs to fat. The models in fitness adverts usually diet and dehydrate before a photo shoot. Even they don't look like that all the time.

Finally, the idea that lifting weights will make you bulky and muscular: ask any woman who actually wants to look like a body builder if it's easy and she'll laugh. Women can't gain that sort of muscle without going to some extreme lengths.

I get so tired of seeing women on here (the exercise board) talking about running, running, running. If strength training comes up, they say "I don't want to get too big. I just want to tone up." Well, don't worry. Because you can't. Not unless you want to to an extraordinary degree and are willing to make drastic changes to your life.

Women who lift weights generally do it because they want to be strong and healthy. We want to be able to move furniture or put our suitcases in the overhead storage without having to ask for help.

And, yes, we want to look good. To fight the inevitable and inexorable loss of bone and muscle that begins in your 40s and accelerates with menopause.

Lifting heavy weights will give you a curvy bottom, shapely arms, and independence into your old age.

noeffingidea · 15/10/2015 20:38

I didn't find it 'woman shaming', it just sounded as if it was written by an old fuddy duddy who hasn't got the message that working out and fitness is becoming a cool and fashionable thing for young women to do.
As to whether men find it attractive, some do, some don't. I think women who work out to any serious extent do it for themselves though.

GloriaSmellens · 15/10/2015 20:39

That article literally reads like it was written by a 13 year old - what a load of absolute guff.

LilaTheTiger · 15/10/2015 20:45

If you don't like thinking I guess the Daily Hate is ideal Confused

Wouldn't work for me though. I'd be thinking "WTAF am I reading this toilet paper for?" and questioning my sanity.

Mari50 · 15/10/2015 20:47

It's not women shaming it's just rubbish 'journalism'. I imagine that the DM brain storming for pish articles with no foundation in fact must be really fun. They have no consistency about anything, ever. The DM is just hilarious, take it with a huge pinch of salt and understand that it's entertainment not fact.

AlpacaLypse · 15/10/2015 20:54

ACoolDad I've seen your name several times recently about the site. Mostly talking faintly leftwing twaddle but heart in right place.

There's a fairly big unwritten rule of MN, which is that The Daily Mail and its website is pernicious evil shite. OK, you have obeyed this rule by indicating that it was a DM linky, but quite large numbers of us vaguely conservative MN users obey the anti DM rule too and basically, what I'm trying to say is that a boycott is a boycott is a boycott. And you've blown it. You've clicked on the site, and increased its advertising traffic. Don't do it again!

LovelyFriend · 16/10/2015 08:32

What happens while your reading DM and not thinking is they sneak little bits of hate into the crevices of our minds.

YABU to read the DM. Try Wordbraim for thinking/not thinking. It's driving me pleasantly nuts.

LilaTheTiger · 16/10/2015 20:46

The Guardian app is excellent. And there's a lot less misogyny.

SquareFrances · 16/10/2015 22:04

YANBU Op at all. It is a completely twattish article that seems to mainly think that women should have the bodies that men want them to.

I also read the mail sometimes even though it annoys me a lot - but I do agree with the previous poster that one can end up with evil creeping into brain crevices unnoticed

dodobookends · 16/10/2015 23:54

Just clicked on a DM link. What was I thinking?

tobysmum77 · 17/10/2015 09:06

Theres a right load of shite in the Guardian too, I read it daily as the app is good. But apparently on mn it's the holy grail.

annandale · 17/10/2015 09:13

A lot of MNers won't click on DM links and like to be warned, but there's no site boycott or rule that I'm aware of unfortunately as even some left-wingers incredibly believe in press freedom and would not strangle 'Lord' Dacre if alone in a lift with him dwells fondly on the image

Narp · 17/10/2015 09:16

Daily Mail in misogyny shock!

carabos · 17/10/2015 09:19

Agree with every word mutton. I'm 52 and do a lot of weight training because at my age the consequences of not doing it are too risky. I look bloody fab. Oh and I can run 10k in 54 min. I don't give a rat's ass what DH thinks either - he's lucky to have me.

HeighHoghItsBacktoWorkIGo · 17/10/2015 09:40

Worrying about women having six packs is ridiculous. Most of us do not have them anyway. It's not an easy thing to achieve.

AgeingArtemis · 17/10/2015 22:37

If anything that article made me MORE keen to get a six pack Grin

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