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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to think this person is a nasty piece of work?

30 replies

Lovemyjimjams · 14/10/2015 14:38

Sorry this is long because it is also a bit cathartic.

I shall preface this by saying that I suffer with anxiety and a v v low self esteem which always makes me want to put others' needs before my own and blame myself for anything and everything. This gets me into all sorts of difficult situations that are ultimately my fault, I know. But in this case, I feel absolutely terrible because this person knew my problems and took full advantage. But I can't think clearly enough to understand whether IABU or not to feel the way I do. Please help me understand. Kindly if you can.

Last year, I attended a training course and was placed in a job with another lady from the course. I am a mother with 2 grown up children not much older than her and we didn't have much in common at all but I liked her and we became friends. I suppose we both relied on eachother, being new in a stressful job. After a short while she started asking me for lifts to work in my car. Although she lived in the same town she lived at the other end and it meant I had to drive to the other end of town to pick her up only to then have to drive all the way back to my end of town because that is where we had to pick up the main road to get into work.

I was happy to do this because I thought we had become friends. Although she was a lot younger than me we had a good laugh to and from work and shared many thoughts and problems. Some mornings I would have to go and pick her up extra early because she was upset after rowing with her BF etc and I would offer her a lot of support. I suppose you could say I felt a bit protective of her in a motherly kind of way. So when she would bitch and swear in the car about people at work, although it made me feel uncomfortable, I thought to myself that she's just a bit immature but is essentially a good person. I thought maybe my subtle "I'm sure he didn't mean it like that"-type-comments might rub off and calm her down a bit.

After a year or so of doing this it became clear that I was not meeting her expectations of friendship. If I did not text her over the weekend for example, she would become sulky and bitch about me to other people. (But still accept my lifts to and from work). One time we had talked about going out for a meal the following Tuesday and would sort out the details nearer the time. But when I called her she told me she was busy now and couldn't come out because she was enjoying an evening in because "I hadn't bothered to call her to make arrangements as a proper friend would".

She knew full well about my anxiety \self esteem problem and used it to take more and more advantage of me. Both at work and outside. She never once offered to contribute to petrol etc knowing that I felt uncomfortable to ask. Sometimes after work I would take her food shopping - she would hint that she only had rent money left knowing that I would probably pay for her food. Which I did.

There are countless more examples, which I know only go to show how weak and useless I am.

As time went on she gradually outgrew her need for me - I left work and she didn't even wish me well or sign my leaving card with anything more than a smiley face. I wrote her a nice email to say I am sad she no longer feels she wants to be friends but wishing her all the best. No response. Having initially encouraged me set up a FB account she deleted me and blocked me and now I am afraid to use it.

My problem is that I feel v hurt - as though my own child or good friend has disowned me - and even though all this was over a year ago, it STILL hurts and I cannot get it out of my mind.

AIBU to feel this way and is she an awful person or is this all my fault and nothing to do with her? What did I do wrong?

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Salmotrutta · 14/10/2015 14:46

You didn't do anything wrong at all.

She is a user and will now have moved on to someone else to use.

Your only fault lay in being too kind I think.

You have every right to feel hurt but you certainly didn't do anything wrong!

Norest · 14/10/2015 14:51

Aww no it wasn't your fault. She took advantage of you...saw that you are a kind sort and emotionally generous and played on that.

These types of people will suck you dry and just move onto the next person. She's probably getting some other perso to run round after her now.

In terms of feeling hurt still it does suck when someone takes advantage of you like that. However maybe try and focus on the fact that you tried to be a good friend, you were kind and her taking from you is a reflection of her not you.

Maybe do some research on boundaries and focus on building stronger ones? This can help your self-esteem in the long run (said by a recovered people pleaser!).

DoJo · 14/10/2015 14:56

There are countless more examples, which I know only go to show how weak and useless I am.

There is nothing weak or useless about being kind to someone who you think needs it. I appreciate that you are suffering from some other issues and that those could potentially be making you feel as though you had any part in this, but you did not. If she was too stupid and small-minded to see how lucky she was to have someone in her life who was prepared to support and help her out, then it really is her loss.

The fact that you were prepared to go to such lengths to make yourself available to her shows that you are a good friend, a kind person and your only problem is wasting that decency on someone as selfish and cruel as this woman. It's her, not you - you didn't do anything wrong. Flowers

FeliciaJollygoodfellow · 14/10/2015 14:58

YABU to waste another second of your time worrying about a person like that. It wasn't your fault OP, you sound like a lovely person and she sounds like a user.

Flowers for you my love. You have nothing to feel sorry for or sad about.

Have a little hug ((((0))))

cranberryx · 14/10/2015 15:04

I didn't want to read and run, and hope that you feel better about this after posting, purely because I know as someone with anxiety I would be obsessing over this as well even though at the end of the day it isn't your fault.

Someone once said to me, 'People aren't out to get you most of the time, they are only out for themselves' - to this person, she clearly didn't see her constant need for lifts as a burden on you. I don't know if she CAN drive, but in my personal experience, people that don't drive often don't think about the extras like petrol, mileage or parking. In her mind, she probably thought 'same town, she's only down the road' not taking into account that over the weeks, months and years this clearly adds up to a lot of mileage and waiting in traffic when you have already passed your house. Not an excuse for her behaviour at all, but I have had to be really firm with people in the past about this to avoid being taken advantage of like this or plead poverty like her.

"I can't pay for parking, I don't have any change." or 'I don't want to drive that far, as I don't have enough petrol for the rest of the week, can I drop you off at my house and you walk?" This helps people think about the financial and personal impact of long term arrangements like this. It's so easy for things to become habit.

I bet there were plenty of times that you didn't want to pick her up, but never said anything because you didn't want to let her down. This woman clearly doesn't care about any of that unfortunately. I would also feel sad about how little she values your past friendship (even if you have drifted apart due to your new job etc). Sad

The only thing I can say is, you are a better person than her. She WAS taking advantage (especially asking you to buy her food, WTAF). As someone with anxiety and depression, even the smallest interactions can be huge effort, and she knew about your history. To me, that would explain why someone wouldn't want to meet on weekends or evenings sometimes and I wouldn't make passive aggressive comments about it.

This woman is a bit of a narcissist. You ARE better off without her, even if it feels horrible to be used like this. Maybe next time, be a little more guarded and think about yourself a little it more. You sound like a really nice person, and you don't deserve to be walked all over like this.

poppycomeshome · 14/10/2015 15:11

What a horrible nasty woman, personally you are WELL RID!! This is not a friend, she is not someone who gives a stuff about you (or anyone else, it is not personal) and she has simply used you like she probably does everyone else. This is a shame for her, and not for you.
You will go on throughout your life and make other friends, and have meaningful friendships and relationships. She will not, she will live a life without knowing the meaning of the word friend one day landing in a very ugly and lonely place.
I would be hurt, anyone would be, you have clearly invested a lot of time and effort (and petrol) into your assumed friendship. I would write a letter to her, with all of your feelings, then rip into shreds or burn it. It will be symbolic. I suppose you could always post it, but you don't really want to invite someone like that back into your world.
Focus on the friends that are worth your time, that also look after you, and be more selective in the future about who is allowed in your life and in your world. You are too nice by far!! :)

hmcReborn · 14/10/2015 15:16

Don't judge yourself, judge her!

She was never a true friend. You can do an awful lot better

SparklySlippers · 14/10/2015 15:20

If it makes you feel better i have done things like this with people and after their true colours have come out ive felt so stupid! I would put it down to a life experience and move on! She sounds like a silly liyyle girl

Leelu6 · 14/10/2015 15:27

You are not 'weak and useless'. You are kind and helpful.

I had a friend like yours. I liked her even though I knew she wasn't a good friend to me, more of a fair weather friend.

I cut off all contact with her. It's a bit like getting out of a romantic relationship. I know I'm better off without her but I still miss her.

But I know that had she valued our friendship she would have taken me less for granted and not said some of the hurtful things she said.

Know that you're better off without her. And take her 'leaving' you as a blessing.

laffymeal · 14/10/2015 15:34

Users seek out people like you, bleed them dry and move on to the next unsuspecting mug. You've outlived your usefulness which is why she's blocked you.
Give yourself a break but don't be so accommodating in future friendships. Unfortunately some people love to take advantage of folk like you.

Gottagetmoving · 14/10/2015 15:34

It sounds like you still want her to like you and approve of you to prove you are worthy.
It is simple. You are a nice kind person who likes to help others and she is a self centred, selfish person who uses people for her own ends.
The more horrible she became the more you felt you needed to please her.

Stop worrying about it. She has taught you something valuable, YOU are NOT useless or weak,..SHE is the useless weak one. Only useless people use others.
She was never your friend, so you have lost nothing.

Orrery · 14/10/2015 15:44

YANBU to ask the question of what happened.

It sounds as though you have acted more generously than your own inner conscience would have liked, which is why you feel conflicted, hurt and want to blame the other person. On the face of it, it does sound as though this 'friendship' was very one-sided and that the other person did take liberties, BUT you also need to take some responsibilty for the way the situation has turned out - why did you continue to do generous things if you weren't happy about not being reciprocated? I don't think I need to spell out that continuously doing things which are at huge odds with your inner sense of fairness is probably what is causing a negative cycle of anxiety and low self-esteem.

You can either change the situation or change the way you feel about it.

In any case I would definitely recommend some Cog Behav Therapy to get some perspective on your own feelings and behaviour and deal with the anxiety and low self esteem - you don't need to live with that burden.

TravellingHopefully12 · 14/10/2015 15:46

She is terrible. It sounds like you have internalised your anger and made it against yourself instead of her, which is what people with low self-esteem do - but it's very destructive. Remember this was her fault, she is not a nice person, and try to stop internalising and self blaming. I know what it's like, and I turn things like this over and over in my mind like it's a concrete mixer, trying to find anyway I could be to blame for someone else's bad behaviour (ridiculous I know.)

It is horrible for you OP

Love x

lastuseraccount123 · 14/10/2015 15:52

you sound like a lovely person who needs some help setting healthy boundaries. Agree with PPs who suggested Cognitive behavioural therapy etc.

:cake: for you

SoleBizzzz · 14/10/2015 16:18

yanbu iwould love to be your frend. Your kind, genorous, selfless. I'd repay you by being the same towards you in return.

people as this work friend of yours are cold hearted, selfish, using losers.

MTWTFSS · 14/10/2015 16:29

Pray karma gets that bitch in the end!!!

TheStripyGruffalo · 14/10/2015 16:30

YANBU, far from it. She sounds like a right wagon.

Lovemyjimjams · 14/10/2015 16:53

Everyone - I am so overwhelmed by your kind words that I now can't stop crying! Tbh I was expecting a flaming for being pathetic or something. And yes, I completely agree that I need to learn to be more guarded, and more assertive. Gottagetmoving you are right in a way when you say I want her approval and to be liked in that I just hate bad feelings between people and being misunderstood.

The trouble I have trying to move on is that I am continually reminded of her because of FaceBook. We have mutual friends, and although she has blocked me I know she still sees my posts and every time I like\reply\comment on a mutual friend's post I imagine her bitching about me. The only way out of this I can see is to delete my FB page and start another without inviting the other old work friends. But they haven't done anything wrong as far as I know. I don't know how much they know about what has happened or what she would have said to them. She is quite a big personality but I am shy and was never v popular. And I don't dare ask in case they think I am being a bitch.

I feel like this will be with me forever.

But I am so so grateful for all your kind comments which have done so very much to help restore some faith in myself that I am a nice person.

Much love to you all Flowers xxx

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amarmai · 14/10/2015 18:28

block her on FB and everytime she pops into your mind , repeat this mantra,"I do not need users" Or make up your own mantra.

Fairenuff · 14/10/2015 18:36

I think you should stop giving her lifts and just tell her that you think the friendship has run it's course. She will talk about you to other people but try not to let that bother you. Those people will, in turn, realise what she is really like.

I've met people like this. They are friendly and easy going to start with but can't keep up the facade so everyone sees their true colours eventually.

Don't stoop to her level, don't say anything detrimental about her. If anyone asks just say that you are not as close as you used to be but that's ok, you've got different interests after all.

Hold your head up, you've done nothing wrong, I bet people think you are lovely.

One of my colleagues once said to me 'I notice you never bitch about anyone' so others will be aware, even if no-one actually says it to you.

Leelu6 · 14/10/2015 18:38

OP, if you block her on Facebook, she will not be able to see what you like or reply or comment on. Trust me, I have tested it on dummy account. You won't see what she likes, or replies to either.

Please block her and don't give her any more thought.

Viviennemary · 14/10/2015 19:06

I agree that she sounds like a total user. I bet she'll be in touch before too long wanting a favour. Hope you tell her where to go. Don't give this another thought. She's the one in the wrong not you. You've been too nice to her and got it thrown back in your face. She's a selfish person and you're better off without people like that in your life. There's plenty of nice people

Gottagetmoving · 14/10/2015 19:11

The trouble I have trying to move on is that I am continually reminded of her because of FaceBook. We have mutual friends, and although she has blocked me I know she still sees my posts and every time I like\reply\comment on a mutual friend's post I imagine her bitching about me

So,...what if she DOES bitch about you? Does it matter? Can it hurt you? You are giving too much power to this pathetic girl. If she bitches about you, don't you think other people KNOW what she is like?
How many people do you think genuinely like her? I am guessing very few.

Give people some credit! They won't think bad of you if she bitches about you, they will just think she is a bitch.

You have wasted enough time worrying about this nasty person. Just remember, you are a good person who is kind and thoughtful, so be proud of yourself!

Finola1step · 14/10/2015 19:17

Jimjams you have had great advice on this thread. I will add one thing. You sound like a truly great friend. A cracking friend. You have shown that colleague the meaning of a good friend and one day, she may learn from it. Who knows? But you are a treasure.

aquashiv · 14/10/2015 19:50

Block her she's just a user.

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