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Should the same be applied to liars

13 replies

Leafitout · 14/10/2015 13:21

I applaud the two ladies who took it all the way to the Supreme Court. Their husbands had lied in regards to the divorce settlement claiming that they were worth a lot less. The husbands hid assets and fraudulently claimed this in the divorce courts. Yes these husbands are worth millions and the wives were awarded millions in settlements. But their cases are to be looked at again. Aibu to think that the same should apply to lying absent parents who also do the same especially when they lie when submitting false information of their earnings regarding child support?

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wasonthelist · 14/10/2015 13:42

Of course lying NRPs should be dealt with. DS's ex has laughed in her face and lied to avoid paying for years - he is far from alone as we know from many threads on here. I wrote to Maria Miller when she was in charge (of CSA/CMS) and got a bullshit reply. Politicians obviously don't care enough - and sadly, Mums like DS tend to be so bogged down in the everyday that they can't be crusading campaigners.

wasonthelist · 14/10/2015 13:44

BTW my ex-wife told a lot of lies in the course of our divorce (led on by her lawyers). I've decided to move on; but I'm not a millionaire.

Booyaka · 14/10/2015 13:48

Yep. Agree but I have a feeling if it was done it would come along with harsher penalties and more investigation of those who refuse access/lie about the reasons.

TheFormidableMrsC · 14/10/2015 13:55

Of course they should be similarly dealt with. I am preparing to take my ex-h back to court with regards to CM. He has pulled so many stunts. Indeed he and OW openly committed contempt of court by submitting falsified information and he has signed a consent order that is a complete fabrication despite the warnings contained therein. He doesn't yet realise he has made a massive fuck up with his most recent submissions to the Judge.

He walked and left me on benefits (long long story) and decided to cut his maintenance to a poxy £150 a month despite living the life of riley with OW who is wealthy and attends to his every need. He can afford flying lessons, modifications to OW's home, her horse habit, her child, his excessive drinking and eating, holidays and everything else, but claims he can't support our autistic son. I simply cannot get my head around it. If I neglected my son to the same degree I would be arrested and he would be put into care. Why are NRP's different? As you can probably tell, this boils my blood

paddlenorapaddle · 14/10/2015 14:03

it's shit really isn't it, but until we can get over ourselves and do a no fault divorce people will still do things like this.

Its the mentality I can't understand that makes it socially acceptable for a NRP/formerSpouse to lie steal and cheat out of paying their fair dues.

Shutthatdoor · 14/10/2015 14:08

Agree but I have a feeling if it was done it would come along with harsher penalties and more investigation of those who refuse access/lie about the reasons.

Rightly so to. Neither situation is right.

LittleRedSparke · 14/10/2015 14:39

i think that anyone doing this, should be left with what they tried to leave the OH with! up yours matey!

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Leafitout · 14/10/2015 18:05

Why the need to lie in order to avoid responsibility and hide the true fortune that could lead to a better life for their own offspring. This case hopefully is now in the spotlight of how devious these x husbands have been.

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ilovechristmas123 · 14/10/2015 18:10

greed pure and simple

TheOriginalWinkly · 14/10/2015 18:16

If there is sufficient evidence that these people lie the cases should be reviewed and the liar should be subject to prosecution for perjury or similar.

MrsTerryPratchett · 14/10/2015 18:24

I live somewhere they can lock you up for not paying child support. They rarely do but they will take away your driving licence and garnish your wages.

We need a proper change in attitude where men (and women, but let's be honest!) who don't pay their child support are seen in the same light as the media portrays women who neglect their resident children. As scum. If i didn't pay for food for my child, I would be prosecuted. Why aren't NRPs who don't support their children?

Funinthesun15 · 14/10/2015 18:33

Yep. Agree but I have a feeling if it was done it would come along with harsher penalties and more investigation of those who refuse access/lie about the reasons.

Of course those that lie should be 'punished' whether it be the NRP who isn't paying, or the RP who refuses access/lies about the reasons.

They are different issues, but both bad.

ConfusedNoMore · 14/10/2015 18:58

Yep agree. And for the formidiblemrsc. I know your story. It sucks. Stbxh isn't as bad as he could be with paying for DS (if I don't count him making us homeless and making me ask every month for the minimum amount CSA says he should pay, whilst he has new gym membership, gadgets, weekends with gf) but is playing games with divorce.

Why don't the big cuts to tax credits affect nrps too? Don't see any increase from them!

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