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AIBU?

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To be concerned at this judge's comments?

56 replies

WifeofDarth · 09/10/2015 21:01

Just read report of a terrible case of a toddler drowning in pond while mother was in the house checking FB on her phone.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-34491753
Absolutely tragic.
But AIBU to think that the judge was being too harsh in saying that any future children she may have will be removed from her as she is a negligent and appalling parent?
Of course she shouldn't have allowed herself to get sidetracked by FB (especially with a pond in the garden). But isn't it almost impossible to survey all of your children 100% of the time? I think that no matter how hard we try sometimes accidents will happen because we are bound to slip up at one time or another.

Does this create a precedent for any parent who is unfortunate enough to lose a child through a one-off accident to be criminalised? How does that help anyone?
(am assuming btw that this was a first incident, and that the mother hadn't previously had reason to be warned about inattention)

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Booyaka · 10/10/2015 21:11

AuntieStella, Gruntled, are you seriously suggesting that the British press, and the Mail in particular would have sanitised the case for reporting? If there had been other types of cruelty and neglect involved they would have been rushing to report every single grisly, lurid, sensational detail.

To say that she must have done more which is why she got 5 years and that numerous news outlets have all made the same errors in their reporting (especially when said outlets have a track record of going all out for outrage in cases like these) is grasping at straws.

AuntieStella · 10/10/2015 21:24

No, I'm stating that editorial judgements are a matter for the press.

Sentencing is a matter for the courts. Sentencing is not dependent on which parts of the trial the press choose to report, how prominently, and in what terms.

It's clear from the reports published yesterday that the amount of detail carried by different media outlets varied considerably. No idea why, though.

Booyaka · 10/10/2015 21:50

But you are claiming that a crucial piece of the case which meant that it changed from a mother who wasn't supervising her children properly to a mother who had done something which warranted a 5 year sentence was left out by every single media outlet? Don't be ridiculous.

noeffingidea · 10/10/2015 21:56

booyaka she admitted 4 charges of neglect. That reveals a pattern.
She wasn't unlucky, she was negligent to the extent that a child died. In fact, he (and another child) could have died on the previous ocassion where they were playing on the road.

AuntieStella · 10/10/2015 21:58

No, I'm not claiming anything of the sort. Especially as the local press did carried info on SS and NSPCC involvement with the DC over the years. I've no idea why others chose to omit some or all of it.

Anyone know how long does it typically take for the official court report to be published?

Cartooner · 10/10/2015 21:58

I had to stop my car to get out and lift a neighbours toddler from the middle of the road, he wasn't yet two. I said it to her as she came from the house in her slippers acting all shocked. Oscar winning performance as the same child was out front the next night. I was close to calling social services then but I think someone had a word with her as they appeared to be supervising more over the next while.

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