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AIBU?

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To think getting paid monthly when you are 13 is a bit rubbish?

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Sparklingbrook · 06/10/2015 17:23

DS2 has a weekly paper round, he gets paid weekly on a Thursday. As from next week it will be paid monthly. I guess they are cost cutting etc.

His face was a picture when I told him, but I do think it's not great when you are that age to have to wait 4 weeks like the grown ups do.

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sproketmx · 06/10/2015 21:25

Not really, I live in one of the west fife villages 8 miles outside dunfermline (where Andrew carnegies was born) in scotland. The facilities are just rubbish. One of the villages nearby doesn't even have a shop or anything and a bus every hour and a half. There's two villages between us and dunfermline and they don't have a bank machine at all

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Sparklingbrook · 06/10/2015 21:30

That really is rubbish.

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TiredButFineODFOJ · 06/10/2015 22:35

I had a saturday job at 13 and it was monthly paid, so around 25 years ago I thought it was fine. I had to go into the bank counter service to withdraw the money as you were not allowed a bank card until age 16!

Samcro · 06/10/2015 22:37

yanbu. that not good.

myotherusernameisbetter · 06/10/2015 22:40

I was going to agree that it was a bit rubbish and then realised that, like a lot of PPs, I pay mine their pocket money monthly into their account so I guess it's no different

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Sparklingbrook · 06/10/2015 22:41

I think if he had started off with monthly pay that would be different. It's the fact it's changing to monthly when he is used to being paid every Thursday.

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balletgirlmum · 06/10/2015 22:46

Cash in hand is quite difficult to administrate these days especially if payroll is outsourced.

If a newsagent has any employees at all earning over the tax/ni limit then they have to operate PAYE on a computerised system & submit reports to HMRC on the day the person is paid.

I do it in house where I work so am able to do both weekly & monthly payroll but many small businesses get an accountant or book-keeper to do it once a month.

bookishandblondish · 06/10/2015 22:47

My Canadian colleagues got paid fortnightly - and thought monthly was horrific. First paychecl was used for rent/ mortgage & bills. Second - everything else. This was up to partner level.

They also thought our holiday was horrific - until they benefitted from it and then got used to it. :)

sproketmx · 06/10/2015 23:39

But kids under 16 don't pay tax or NI. You just bung them an envelope with wages on it. The kids here all work up the farm or stables n get 3 or 4 quid an hour and get paid after every shift they put in

balletgirlmum · 06/10/2015 23:46

It doesn't matter if they don't pay tax or NI. It's still illegal not to put their wages through the payroll if the employer runs PAYE for even one other employee.

Mmmmcake123 · 06/10/2015 23:50

Monthly pay for that level of income is outright ridiculous

sproketmx · 07/10/2015 00:00

The kids at the farm and the stables just get it out of petty cash, like how you would pay the vet for coming or the farrier or the baler guy. Just note it in the book. They're only wee kids

Mrsjayy · 07/10/2015 00:05

Dds always got their pocket money monthly they had PAYG phones so it was to co incide with their top ups but dh gets paid monthly so it was easier. I cant believe your village has 1 cash machine sproketmx thats ridiculous I live in a large village we have 4 of them

balletgirlmum · 07/10/2015 00:06

But its illegal whether they are wee kids or not UNLESS the farm only employs part timers who earn under the Lower Earnings Level

It means the employer either doesn't declare that cash income & all petty cash has to be accounted for) or he pays tax on it himself as there is no legal record of it being paid out so its classed as profit.

balletgirlmum · 07/10/2015 00:07

And you would get a proper invoice/receipt from the vet/farrier/whoever.

Mrsjayy · 07/10/2015 00:08

sparkling maybe the newsagent customers pay their papers monthly the paper kids might get paid out of that ?

balletgirlmum · 07/10/2015 00:13

Scenario 1: farm employing 10 part time staff each earning between 8k per year plus some kids earning £20 Per week

Perfectly legal to pay them at whatever interval you wish without making a declaration to HMRC every time you pay them

Scenario 2: Farm employing 2 members of staff earning £15k per year plus some kids earning £20 per week. Farm has to run PAYE scheme & report all wages "in Real Time" for everyone, even the kids.

balletgirlmum · 07/10/2015 00:14

That's a simplified version as complications arise if someone has multiple jobs etc.

sproketmx · 07/10/2015 03:37

Of course the farm only employs part timers usually seasonally who earn under the wage limit. And a proper receipt from a farrier or freelance riding instructor? Ha jou must me joking. You get a hand written scrawl of how many hours they did and how many were in the lesson or how many hunters of what size were fitted. 15k a year? You'd be lucky to earn 12k full time as an adult. The kids get 4 or 5 quid an hour. My niece whos 11 works 8 till half 2 on a sat to pay her ponies livery then Sunday 9 till half 1 for a bit money. When I was a kid you got 2 quid an hour and you got stuck on whatever needed breaking in between mucking out then you were sent across the road to chase the cows till the tractor went in with silage.

I have never heard of any of the kids be it at the farm, riding school, scrappies, paper Round, Avon, picking berries, in the cafe, in the chippy etc ever going through the books till they're 16.

Senpai · 07/10/2015 03:50

I have to say, in the US it's almost always weekly. Sometimes biweekly.

Barring contracts (and those are special cases anyway), I'd be if any employer asked me to wait a month.

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Sparklingbrook · 07/10/2015 06:34

sproket you seem to live in a parallel universe.

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WhoTheFuckIsSimon · 07/10/2015 06:44

What Sprocket talks about seems very normal to me. I grew up very rurally doing all sorts of farm work, stables work and was paid cash in hand, weekly. Even as a full time farm hand I was paid cash in hand, weekly.

I pay dds pocket money monthly. Have done since she was 11yo. She soon got used to budgeting.

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Sparklingbrook · 07/10/2015 06:49

How many years ago was that? I got paid cash in the 80s working at a stables. These days it's the norm to be paid into your bank. Cash not an option for DS2 as its a big newspaper company who do it properly.

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NaughtToThreeSadOnions · 07/10/2015 07:08

Sprocket seems to live in the 1980s!

I recoignise it from me childhood my oldest brother started work for family at 13 in 1987 and was paid like sprocket suggests but even by my brother and sisters, 15 years later no wee kids were being paid cash, cheque or standing order in to the bank. even when j was 14/15 most kids in my class had cashpoint cards, not debit cards. The only cash in hand job I really did was causal babysitting

Wee kids or not, their are still employed, their for still part of the pay roll and tax legislation. Wee kids might not pay tax or NI but their employers do and must have insurance for them!

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Sparklingbrook · 07/10/2015 07:16

Yes I agree. We had so many forms to fill in for him to even do the round in the first place. He gets his payslip emailed to him every week. Depending on leaflets his wave is different every week. He likes to see it.

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