We should be following Swedish 6 hour working day, rather than the Chinese / US working model

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Yet again more backwards encouragement in living standards. In Sweden they are now beginning to embrace the 6 hour working day as it is better for employees and employees with productivity. Yet our government are trying to push the Chinese as something we should follow, when they have well known awful employment conditions. I honestly thought it was some kind of spoof joke!

Another round of applause for anyone who voted Tory. I'm get more frightened for my families future every time the Tories announce some new bullshit like this.

I find these remarks, coming from a man who can afford to install a dance floor in his living room, very difficult to stomach.

Well, the Chinese model requires an overhaul of pesky red tape such as "human rights" and "unions", but the government is making some really good progress on that.

Suicide nets below office windows to catch the jumpers is another brilliant brainwave from the nudge unit. It could really incentivise people to stay alive and therefore stay productive.

If we all pull together and put in the work, we'll shortly be a much stronger contender in the global marketplace! Let that knowledge warm your heart when you come home to your damp bedsit after a 12-hour day on the minimum wage. Bask in the glory!

The glory definitely trickles down, even if the wealth doesn't.

Good god a bedsit robotic! What luxury.

Most live on site, under the desk and in locked dorms. No commute needed! Children welcome too, though you can post them back to the village in the countryside when they're too big to fit in the cardboard box at your feet.

Thanks, Sealpup, that made me laugh!

Ive heard the 6 hour day was just a trial and that the consensus was "its great for the workers, and everyones happier, but its more expensive because they were running 2 6-hour shifts and had to pay both of them a full day wage, they cant afford to do that long-term."

China had done of the worse standards of palliative care in the work and UK is top of the league table. Maybe Dave Cameron should remember that his son had the best of nhs palliative care. Life is more brutal for disabled children in China who aren't going to br productive drones when/ if they grow up.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-34415362

I don't know why our government has Dutch an obcession with communist China. They want our schools to become like Chinese schools as well.

I doubt that Dave Cameron's family will be working 14 hours a day in sweat shops. What is the point of working hard if you have no time of energy left to enjoy the fruits of your labour?

I live in China. Workers take their own pillows to work so that they can nap at their desks. It's like a unwritten rule that they can do it, you see people napping everywhere from offices to people on the street.
Also generally the work ethic sucks here. People only do what they are told to do, there is absolutely no initiative to go above your remit. It's strictly a Im only doing what you've told me to do, even if it's blindly obvious and simple to do the next step/complete a task. Pretty much no one takes ownership for their work, that way they can't be blamed when mistakes are made, for example I'm only doing what he told me to do. And another massive problem here is staff retention, low wages = no loyalty. People don't think twice about leaving with one or two days notice. It becomes a massive problem.

Sounds great. Let's copy that.

Sweden do not operate a six hour day.

I agree op, why not look to societies who seem to be coming out happier rather countries far removed like us and china, china of all places .

Freinds who work in states have said they dont do things ( where they worked) in most eficient way.

why not look at this and do shorter hours.

Is working 7.5 hours a day really that hard? FFS getting sick of 9-5ers whinging all the time.

No one said 7.5 hours is hard, but its probably not very efficient. Dont think anyone is working efficiently for that long. I used to work in the city, where 8-8 was common, people were horribly inefficient and often there sat at desks just to look good even if they had nothing to do.

Working conditions should of improved, everyone on a three day week. However all that's happend is people have loaded up with more debt. I often think I get more done in my 3 days than most people do in their 5, I don't waste time on decisions, spend hours debating the silly little things in meetings and just get on and work. It is tempting to up to 9 hours a day, but realistically I'd just waste the time and 7.5 hours is just enough for a decent balance on working days.

but its probably not very efficient

I'd need a bit more than that resounding criticism of the 7.5 hour day to take the cut in pay.

Working conditions should of improved, everyone on a three day week

Hmm, what would you have us all doing with these 4 day weekends? I already do lots in 2 days, not sure I could afford to do anything on 18 hours pay a week!!!!

What I noticed when I was there, very briefly so please ignore me if it's shite, was the difference in work between the people and the structure. Small businesses, little shops and small restaurants people worked so hard, were friendly, thought outside the box (one bloke managed to sell me super glue and explain the instructions using only mime ). They were working for themselves or family and worked hard and were enthusiastic.

When we came across government workers or worked for large organisations they were the opposite. No one could make a decision without feedback, it needed 10 people to consult if things were remotely outside the norm, people needed to consult with higher ups about everything and nothing got done efficiently or well.

I don't know if only passive yes-men are hired by those organisations, people are demotivated by Communism to not work hard and problem solve unless they own the business or it's just a government/business culture. It was very odd.

I imagine that when our government types go there they only come across the drone-culture, which says something very interesting about what they like.

I'd need a bit more than that resounding criticism of the 7.5 hour day to take the cut in pay.
I believe the workers in the study had the same take-home pay as theyd had for the longer day, there was no reduction in pay.

Government by the rich
for the rich
not giving a shit about anybody but the rich

Yanbu. Exactly what I was thinking, op. Why on earth would we emulate the Chinese?/

I work 6 hours a day and love my job! Have time to get home, do chores and cook tea then relax for rest of evening. I wouldn't swap for a longer day now.

I have loathed Jeremy (Isaac) hunt for quite some time. (Ps isaac is not really his middle name afaik. Also have i spelt that wrong?).

I know someone who knows him. She always shows off about the fact and i just think, why? In the name of God, why would you brag about that? First time she told me I didn't hear her properly (because I was pissed) and so the moment to challenge her somewhat passed!

Yes, let's emulate a society where toddlers get chained to lampposts to stop them from being abducted while their parents work.

It's almost funny. Except it isn't.

As childcare goes, that leaves something to be desired.

goto can you imagine people having a nap at work here . You'd be hauled over the coals.

There's a meme about work culture, where the Chinese employ 50 people to milk a cow and claim full employment. Wish I could find it

Jeremy Hunt, great grandson of Walter Baldwyn Yates, and 4th great grandson of John Scott, 1st Earl of Eldon, 29th great grandson of King Henry I, 4th cousin once removed of Elizabeth II, and 5th cousin once removed of Sir Oswald Mosley, thinks us serfs need to work harder.

I don't think you can blame ancestry for being not a very nice person. I am descended from aristocracy (5 generations back the third son ran off with a maid and from there my branch of the family appeared) it's not in my blood to be heartless and mean. Everybody has free will