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To be concerned about poor spelling, grammar and punctuation in the English language ?

51 replies

vienna1981 · 25/09/2015 21:49

This is something I notice when, for example, I read reviews on Trip Advisor or even some emails and notices from the management at work.

I admit, I am one of the lucky ones. I never had any significant trouble with English throughout my school days and I know that some folk struggled. But we've always had dictionaries for spelling queries, computers have spellcheckers and Word can't resist sticking its oar in if you're writing a letter.

What's gone wrong ? Bad teaching, general sloppiness or has our intelligence nosedived in recent years Confused ?

BTW, my favourite howler is 'your' when the writer means 'you're'. So often seen.

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Lostalot · 25/09/2015 22:02

Not everybody is good at English/grammer. Think of something your not so good at. Would it bother you if you were 'pulled up' about it? It bothers me- am dyslexic and find this post v annoying.
Sorry if that offends, it's just how I feel

PolterGoose · 25/09/2015 22:04

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MrsGentlyBenevolent · 25/09/2015 22:09

I'm ok with bad spelling and grammar, language changes all the time and we have to move with it. I'm a terrible speller and I have a degree in English Language, doesn't mean I don't try/have respect for the language.

Now abbrevations, those get my goat. Very, very lazy to type things such as 'BTW' when most have the ability to use the full word intended Smile.

TheSnowFairy · 25/09/2015 22:10

Grin at PolterGoose

StrapOnDodo · 25/09/2015 22:10

I'm very impressed that you have correctly used nosedived as one word and not in the hyphenated form which is only correct when using nose-dive as a verb.

OP your going to the top of the class ??

SlowlyGoingINSAINIA · 25/09/2015 22:16

The world has gone insainia..

sugar21 · 25/09/2015 22:18

I think that you have to consider that a lot of people are dyslexic and not all devices have a spell check. Auto correct kicks in so sentences have to be carefully checked. Plus, many people may not have had the benefit of English grammar lessons at school.
As far as I'm concerned so long as the written work is understandable and the writer gets their point across that's enough. Spelling and punctuation do make a difference I agree but life is too short to dissect every sentence into Subject, Predicate and the ensuing Nouns Pronouns, adjectives adverbs etcetera.

WellFiredRoll · 25/09/2015 22:19

I used insainia to a friend recently and she didn't know what I was on about!

StrapOnDodo · 25/09/2015 22:21

What is INSAINIA?

PrimalLass · 25/09/2015 22:22

You don't need a space before a question mark.

SlowlyGoingINSAINIA · 25/09/2015 22:22

What is INSAINIA?

A misspelling of insania. Grin

MitzyLeFroof · 25/09/2015 22:24

Peter Andre invented 'insainia'

Peter Andre is our generation's James A. H. Murray.

StrapOnDodo · 25/09/2015 22:25

Ok, so what is insania? Sounds like Aldi brand nappy cream.

BettyTurpinsHotpot · 25/09/2015 22:26

I used it's instead of its yesterday on here. I felt embarrassed, thought I could post a mimsy little correction but then decided not to as it's social media.

Unless I was representing an organisation I wouldn't treat social media with as much care as formal writing.

vienna1981 · 25/09/2015 22:28

I don't know what 'predicate' means but it's probably something I do or use a lot without knowing. I'm just questioning an apparent low level of simple standards folks.

Dyslexia is, of course, significant. I work with three dyslexic people at a higher pay/responsibility grade than me (or should that be 'I' ?). None of them hesitate to ask me when they're unsure about this subject, which somewhat humbles me.

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Sallyhasleftthebuilding · 25/09/2015 22:29

Im more bothered by those who could do better, but choose not too. The other issue, more worryingly is spoken language not being good enough, Diffrent ... apon... nuff,. Its not surprising kids cant spell.

StrapOnDodo · 25/09/2015 22:35

I googled insania and have learned something new.

BettyTurpinsHotpot · 25/09/2015 22:47

Every day can be a school day.

LuisSuarezTeeth · 25/09/2015 22:48

It's something to be concerned about, I agree.

If you're an English teacher ;)

sugar21 · 25/09/2015 22:53

Subject and predicate are what we use to dissect a sentence.
The subject obviously will be the basis of the sentence, and the predicate is what the subject does.
So the subject will invariably be nouns and pronouns and the predicate will be adjectives and adverbs.

InimitableJeeves · 26/09/2015 00:05

The thing is that schools now have to place a great deal of emphasis on spelling and grammar throughout the curriculum. Therefore it can only help children if the spelling and grammar they see all about them is correct.

Fauchelevent · 26/09/2015 00:13

Thanks to the whole "you're not your" without any context brigade I met a guy who NEVER used your. So he'd say "I love you're hands."

Most grammar fanatics only care about very basic grammar, they get superior over people not knowing the same things as them but make mistakes with more complex grammar anyway.

MinecraftWonder · 26/09/2015 00:20

'Please get in touch with myself and I will help you further'.

I see this sort of sentence all the time and it sets my teeth on edge. Even more than your and you're.

FartemisOwl · 26/09/2015 00:28

It depends on the context. If it's on FaceAche or other social media, I don't really care as long as it's understandable. When its for a business or professional page, I cringe when they get it wrong.