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Who is being fair here

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Helloisitteayourelookingfor · 21/09/2015 13:22

My sister is getting an article printed in a national paper for which she's being paid a pretty good sum of money. She's a freelance journalist and the article is a travel guide thing on a holiday we took together

I took some photos while we were there and against my permission she sent a couple of them to the paper with her article. Aibu to ask, if the photo gets printed, that I could have a (very) small share? It's not the money I want and I'm very proud of her for this, she's just starting out so it's great. It's just the principle, it would be nice to be acknowledged...

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19lottie82 · 21/09/2015 13:24

I think you're being really grabby. It's your sister you should be glad she's doing well for herself rather than sticking your hand out when you haven't lost out!

Bumbledumb · 21/09/2015 13:28

I seriously doubt that the national press will use your pictures, unless there is some editorial content in them. They are much more likely to accompany the story with stock photos.

BiddyPop · 21/09/2015 13:30

You own the copyright to those photos, so any payment she gets for those should be given to you.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 21/09/2015 13:31

Rather than asking for money, could you ask to be acknowledged as the person who took the photo, on the image if it is used? That way you get the acknowledgement of your input, but don't look grabby.

kewtogetin · 21/09/2015 13:31

Seriously?! You should be thrilled for your sisters success not wondering how you can turn it to your own advantage. You're being greedy and i suspect you are jealous and letting your jealousy/bitterness cloud your judgement......

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Helloisitteayourelookingfor · 21/09/2015 13:31

Ok fair enough thanks

Yeah, you're right, we're really close and I'm honestly just proud of her but can understand why you think it's a grabby attitude.

I helped her out with the proof reading and writing of the article so just a simple thanks would be fine too, that's all - will leave it now, thanks

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Sighing · 21/09/2015 13:33

She needs to take the line of work more seriously. It's very unprofessional to use someone's work without their permission (in fact against it) and to not credit work to the appropriate person. She will also be the person in the firing line were the paper to be approached in a similar situation. No paper is going to let the blame stop with them.

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Helloisitteayourelookingfor · 21/09/2015 13:33

I'm really really (really!) not jealous or bitter!! I'm thrilled for her!

We are extremely close; I think it's just that if the shoe were on the other foot, I would probably send her a little card or so me thing saying thank you as I was there while she was writing the article and did a lot of proof reading etc for it - that's just what sisters do though, I don't resent it, I'm really happy for her.

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TheHouseOnTheLane · 21/09/2015 13:34

As a freelance writer I can tell you that if I were your sister I would not only give you some money but also a credit!

It's crap of her not to. I can't believe people are calling you greedy! I'm in the profession and it's disrespectful if she does not pay you.

OneDay103 · 21/09/2015 13:35

That's your sister, don't be so mean.

ImperialBlether · 21/09/2015 13:35

So basically you're saying that although she wrote the piece, she couldn't have done it without you?

You could ask for an acknowledgement for the photo; I could understand that if you were working in photography.

Asking for money is really grabby.

Jackie0 · 21/09/2015 13:35

You helped her because she's your sister and you love her.I'm sure she appreciates it. Don't make it all weird talking about credit or money.

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Helloisitteayourelookingfor · 21/09/2015 13:37

Ok thanks sighing, yeah j was a bit put out because she asked me to send them to her as "holiday photos" before claiming she wasn't using them in her article and then did. I know they're probably not going to publish them but I just didn't see the need for the sneakiness! But anyway I am hugely happy for her and glad she is fulfilling her dreams!! No bones about it, she's probably the most important person to me in the world and we have a very close but bickery relationship, that's why I'm asking on here instead of in real life as it wouldn't be fair or appropriate!!!!

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plantsitter · 21/09/2015 13:39

What weird opinions! Of course you're not being grabby asking for the money/credit your sister gets for work you've done! i'm sure they'll credit the photo to you, unless she's explicitly lying about who took it.

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Helloisitteayourelookingfor · 21/09/2015 13:39

It's really not about the credit or money at all, sorry I phrased it really wrong

It's more the principle, I just felt like I did a nice thing for her (I don't resent it or anything!!) and she hasn't really said a thank you back, it's not a big deal

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Helloisitteayourelookingfor · 21/09/2015 13:40

Haha no she claimed she took it and kept saying it was hers until I showed her it on my camera! So she has claimed it is hers and didn't acknowledge it was mine until I showed her proof

We do have that kind of relationship though, anything goes really, and at the end of the day it doesn't matter and I love her.

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MrsCorbyn · 21/09/2015 13:43

Very very grabby

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Helloisitteayourelookingfor · 21/09/2015 13:46

Mrscorbyn have you read my later posts in this thread?!

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ThumbWitchesAbroad · 21/09/2015 13:49

Hm, I think she's been quite sneaky actually - claiming it was her own photo and not telling you why she wanted yours! I'd say that it was only fair to expect a credit for your photo, at the very least. Probably not money though, unless you're desperately hard up.

I once was asked to help write something for my old boss - she was asked first, then pulled me in as a co-writer, and we were going to split the fee. Well I ended up doing the whole bloody thing, she contributed nothing, not even the case history that I and the editor were expecting - so I made sure that she got no credit and no fee for it! Why should she, when she'd done no work? OTOH, if she had contributed anything, I would have equally made sure that we had a fair split and credit to both of us.

I really don't like people being dishonest over this sort of thing, and your sister was being dishonest (and still is, if she's still not crediting you) over use of your photo(s).

laureywilliams · 21/09/2015 13:50

Really surprised at these responses.

Your sister is passing your photo's off as her own? And getting paid for it? THAT is grabby.

HortonWho · 21/09/2015 13:53

If she asked you for photos saying she won't use them for the article, then she knows she can't without your permission/credit. If she insisted she took them, why not just show her the email where you attached them, did she not believe that until she saw your actual camera? Unless you're hugely talented and can stand in a crowd of people taking the same scenery but come up with a completely original image - aren't the chances that she did take a similar photo and thought it was hers pretty high?

bettyberry · 21/09/2015 14:00

No, not unreasonable at all. You took the photos therefore you own them and the rights to them and perfectly entitled to ask for payment and/or credit when/if the photos were printed.

I am very annoyed on your behalf and hate 'stealing' of property Like that.

As for doing the proofreading/editing bit. No, you are not entitled for credit for that unless you wrote the whole lot. Plus, the paper will have its own editors who will probably hack some of that content out, shift a bit around to fit the column its for. They may decide to cut her word count down.

Your sister, however, does need to get a bit more professional and not use other peoples work and claim it as her own and needs to write the whole article herself!

As for the others saying its grabby? really? Try making a living where folk steal your images and you lose money on it or your writing is stolen and shared for free.

Theycallmemellowjello · 21/09/2015 15:07

If you're close would a more rational explanation for the fact that she claimed that she took the picture be that she thought she did take it? If she had all the files on her computer in one place it probably wasn't obvious who took what, and with bog standard holiday photos its hard to tell. I went away with friends this summer and we shared all our pics - now I've downloaded them to my computer I wouldn't be able to tell you who took what. I've proofread for people a million times and have had my stuff proofread too. For a book of course you put in an acknowledgment. For a newspaper article of course you don't. In your circumstances I would expect a credit for the photo if used but no further thanks for the proofreading. I wouldn't demand payment off my sister, but if you want to ask for payment you need to tell her before publication so that she has the option of deciding not to use your picture.

TittyBiskwits · 21/09/2015 15:12

Your sister is passing your photo's off as her own? And getting paid for it? THAT is grabby.

^^ This! I really can't understand some of the responses on here. If your sister had asked you beforehand, explaining that she was going to use your photo, it might be different. But she didn't.

whois · 22/09/2015 07:57

Your sister is passing your photo's off as her own? And getting paid for it? THAT is grabby.

Agreed. Why lie? Does she have form for sneakiness?

I'd ask for photo credit but not money. And I don't think I'd help her with her work again.

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