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AIBU about Tax Credits cuts,

792 replies

Weathergames · 15/09/2015 23:37

Commons back Osborne plan for tax credit cuts
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34260902

I don't claim anymore because I now earn enough to support myself - because I could work and progress my career as well as my life while being a single parent.

AIBU to think this is a total travesty and so many single parents are going to have their life's devastated by this - and what about people in domestic abuse situations who will now be more unable to leave?

Maybe I some benefits scrounger - but the tax credits enabled me to be a good parent and role model to my kids - without their feckless father affecting that .... AIBU?!

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Weathergames · 16/09/2015 18:35

To clarify - I did not mean my OP to insinuate this would only affect single parent families - I guess I wrote from my own perspective. Apologies.

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bodenbiscuit · 16/09/2015 18:35

Many people who didn't know what they were voting for voted Tory. And it is their fault that they don't read the manifestos before deciding who to vote for. Too many people read the Daily Mail. Too many people are too young to remember what life was like under Thatcher.

bodenbiscuit · 16/09/2015 18:36

Oh Xenia - makes sense.

Weathergames · 16/09/2015 18:38

I remember being a Primary school in the 1980s and it was blatantly clear who came from a single parent family Sad

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bodenbiscuit · 16/09/2015 18:41

Yes, me too Weathergames.
One poor girl used to be called 'flea bag' just because her clothes had holes in.

Margaritte · 16/09/2015 18:41

I haven't seen Xenia on here before, is this why Janet hasn't come back to answer? Is Xenia a poster with form for being goady?

If not, I'd really like Janet to come back and answer my question upthread

DrearyMe1 · 16/09/2015 18:45

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DrearyMe1 · 16/09/2015 18:48

I didn't and would never vote Tory. As for The Daily Mail? I wouldn't want to even wipe my bum with it let alone read it, even if I had Rota virus, and there was no toilet paper within a 10 mile radius. I would embrace the chafe.

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 16/09/2015 18:48

Janet, You're delighted, that. Children couid go hungry. Families could lose their homes.
You're a disgrace, You should be highly embarrassed of yourself. Getting off on peoples misery and poverty. Mrs I'm alright Jack. And before you start prattling on about, but I work hard for what I've got, yeah well 3 cheers whoopie doo. The world salutes you but news flash so do I so do most if everyone or most on this thread..
Hope you never see a poor day, but you know if you do a lot of people will be watching and wallowing, and I wouldn't blame them. The words own taste and medicine are ringing in my ears.

hattyhatter · 16/09/2015 18:50

Is Xenia a poster with form for being goady?

Grin

You could say that Margaritte.

Xenia in an MN legend. Very successful lawyer; Very pro women becoming high earners; Very staunch Tory & very fond of going on at length about 'jam tomorrow' Wink

hattyhatter · 16/09/2015 18:51

(She's also famous for owning an island and paying her exh a £1million divorce settlement. She probably feels pretty safe from the austerity cuts)

Margaritte · 16/09/2015 18:52

How have I missed her? I have been on here for quite a few years.. perhaps I have, and just not for a while..

Osolea · 16/09/2015 18:54

Isn't she also a single mum to five? If you're going to talk about her, it seems only fair to point out that she's had her fair share of difficulties as well.

The problem with disabled people and carers being affected isn't a problem because of tax credit cuts. It's a problem because disability and caring benefits aren't high enough on their own. There should never have been an element if child tax credits that paid for disability, it should have been kept separate from the start.

There wouldn't be so much support for benefit cuts if benefits were only ever given to people who have valid reason to need them in the first place.

Margaritte · 16/09/2015 18:54

I'm searching google - intrigued now.

hattyhatter · 16/09/2015 18:55

She's been a regular NCer for the past couple of years. But why bother when you're going to do this^ highly identifiable arsery, i don't know.

Janet, Dreary makes an excellent point. People are going to go hungry. What makes you think revelling is appropriate? Or even human?

MissMarpleCat · 16/09/2015 18:56

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hattyhatter · 16/09/2015 18:57

Yes

bettyberry · 16/09/2015 18:58

No one is mentioning landlords as being a big cause in the rising cost of housing!

Try being evicted because the landlord wants to jack the rent up by £200 a month because his property has been revalued and thats how much he can make even though the mortgage is much less and he hasn't remortgaged!

You want to know why the housing benefit bill is rising that's a huge part of it and I agree with PPs that the living wage is no where near the living wage and the tax credits cuts are just ridiculous.

I'm fed up of listening (in Real Life) to people saying 'its about time! our tax credits were cut ages ago' people who were earning £30k! and using it to justify cutting the income of a single mother on £10k a year or a couple earning a little more. Its just not right.

The absolute worst however are the people who try to use how they raised their now adult children on a single wage without benefits as some kind of justification for it.

I am expecting to be hit hard by these cuts esp having a child with a disability. This is going to make all my self-employed work unviable and I'd be better off claiming as a carer instead which I would be legally entitled to do. :(

DrCoconut · 16/09/2015 18:59

I also remember the bad old days of the 1980's growing up with a lone parent. My dad had dared to become terminally ill and die. He had obviously been out of work for some time due to his health and then was gone altogether. We didn't starve but my mum really struggled to keep a roof over our heads and food on the table. She has since admitted to going without so we didn't. My DH meanwhile lived in a very middle class background with no worries and remembers it as a carefree era, full of opportunity. Different perspectives. I would never vote for the Tories and really feel for those who will be badly affected by the cuts. We will be slightly uncomfortable but not desperate, at least for a while. Who knows in future?

Osolea · 16/09/2015 19:03

Landlords haven't become a problem on their own just for no reason. People started investing in property because pensions turned to shit and other investments aren't as secure. BTL landlording comes with it's own financial risks, it's not all just sitting back and watching your bank balance grow. It's something people do for many valid reasons, but ten because it's the best option available to people who need to find a way of providing for their retirement.

HelenaDove · 16/09/2015 19:04

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/15/evicting-wheelchair-user-social-housing-luxury-flats-barnet-council-sweets-way

He had to refuse the alternatives offered because they were INaccesible.

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 16/09/2015 19:04

The thought UN were looking into the governments treatment of the disabled. What happened nto that

MissMarpleCat · 16/09/2015 19:05

With regards to women fleeing domestic violence. A place in a shelter costs upwards of £300 a week.

lougle · 16/09/2015 19:05

This isn't about Xenia. People should be able to say if they hold the view that benefit reductions are a good thing. Perhaps if we didn't jump at them, those people would give a reasonable explanation of their view.

I don't know what the answer is. I can see the view that for people who choose to rely on TC rather than improving their circumstances through work, this is a fair challenge to that choice. I also know the reality that it is not a 'fair' cut because it's indiscriminate in application.

I'm lucky, I suppose, that I did my return to practice course this year so I can take a job as a nurse. DH already works full time. I don't think we'll be better off, really, when you take into account the fuel cost, loss of carer's allowance (DD1 has SN), reduction in WTC/CTC/HB/council tax relief/free prescriptions, etc., but I can work as long as my parents pick up the slack for school runs, etc.

People who are unskilled or have been out of work for years will struggle hugely.

hattyhatter · 16/09/2015 19:08

This isn't about Xenia.

No it's not but turning up on a thread like this with a one line gloat isn't on.

People should be able to say if they hold the view that benefit reductions are a good thing. Perhaps if we didn't jump at them, those people would give a reasonable explanation of their view.

Nobody's stopping them.