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Grassing up benefit fraud

35 replies

Unreasonablebetty · 09/09/2015 13:44

Hi,
I think I've been v unreasonable when it comes to a family I no.

It all started out with this couple moving from Portugal with their daughter, and to begin with we really liked them.
Then it came to the point where we were sorting out all of their benefit forms for them (they signed them obviously-and I only wrote the information they gave me)

He was born in Portugal, she wasn't so they then started talking about getting married so she could stay. No she didn't want benefits she wanted to work. They would stay in UK.
So They get married, and benefits are granted to them (full housing benefit for 1 bed house, council tax paid, working tax, child tax and child benefit) on top of his wages, then I'm told she gets around ??500 a month from her mother.
So I just say, make sure everyone knows so you don't get into trouble.
From then on she talks about how she misses home.
In the meantime I've pieced together that they came here, talked of getting married, got benefits and then seem to want to go home and seriously distanced myself from them. School breaks up, and they go on holiday. I think nothing just that they've gone on holiday. The day before the kids go back to school she texts to say she's not coming back till October, if ever but mentions she's fine cos the benefits are still going into her account and she is having fun whilst at home.

It made me so angry, she gets full tax credits for her daughter and child benefit and she's not even living here!!!! That money isn't to be spent living the life of Riley in another European country!

And the bloody husband! Now he's got himself moved up in the daughters bedroom, and he's got different women round every night, and loves to sit in the garden talking about how he pays no rent cos housing benefit despite him working!

When we live in the same area and there's us, we both work, I'm disabled so I can't do too much, but we're both in work and were struggling to pay bills without the benefits that they get- and they're bloody better off than we are!!

I called the benefit fraud hotline, cos its not bloody right. Now I feel really guilty.

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evilcherub · 09/09/2015 18:45

Just report them. What's the problem? Benefits are for the genuinely needy not for someone who fancies arbitraging the UK benefits system so they can live cheaply abroad.

NewLife4Me · 09/09/2015 18:52

I can't see why the wedding was staged. You don't have to be married to get benefits, just in a relationship and living together.

HeyOverHere · 09/09/2015 20:43

Look at it this way. Somewhere out there is someone who needs those benefits, but won't get them, because these people are taking them up. It's better to feel guilty for turning in loafers than for letting that family in need go without.

Unreasonablebetty · 09/09/2015 20:57

No ghostylovessheep,
They do.
They are entitled to around ??160 a wk housing benefit for a two bedroom house, they'd pay the shortfall,
They get the ??160 and rent a 1 bed house which means they don't get a full entitlement but their rent is paid IN FULL,
But this is because they are entitled to two bedrooms if the child is in the country, which she is not, and is not likely to be for quite some time, whilst her mum still gets benefits for her.

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Unreasonablebetty · 09/09/2015 21:02

Newlife4me,
She isn't a EU national, she was given six months to stay then get out.
She got married in order not to go home (yes lived in Portugal, wasn't born there, wasn't a citizen either)
So the marriage allowed her a NINO in order to get benefits for herself.

She's now classed as a European citizen (apparently) because she married a bloke that she's spent the past 6 months married to, and overall half of that they've spent in separate countries.

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Unreasonablebetty · 09/09/2015 21:05

Thank you hey over there,
I agree, there's a huge immigration crisis, and these people coming from Syria would be far more deserving as they'd actually carve a life out for themselves here, and not just get benefits and run off to spend them in the sunset.

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SlowlyGoingINSAINIA · 09/09/2015 22:04

Why was she given only 6 months to stay? If she is married to an EU spouse she has the right to stay (aslong as the spouse isn't British).

Or have I completely misunderstood your posts? probably, I'm quite tired

NewLife4Me · 09/09/2015 22:27

Ah, sorry OP. I understand now, I'm a bit slow at times. Grin

Unreasonablebetty · 09/09/2015 22:51

Insatiable- when she arrived here she wasn't married, she got married just within that time so she couldn't be sent home as she was fully aware that was a way of obtaining EU citizenship. Mo apologise I don't always explain myself properly.

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Unreasonablebetty · 09/09/2015 22:53

*insania I mean!!
Gah this phone!
I can't seem to quote people and don't even get me started on the corrections my phone kindly makes for me! Xx

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