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To have a problem with his relationship with his ex?

42 replies

Trickysitch123 · 09/09/2015 12:43

Firstly, I think it's important to note that I am very pro people having positive relationships with their ex-partners where possible, especially when children are involved.
I've been with my partner for 3.5 years and it has been far from easy but we're happy and have a great life together. However, there is one issue I struggle to get over: his relationship with his ex-wife.
She is a very difficult woman and I had sympathy for this for the first few years (even after receiving streams of abuse from her, her hacking my emails, threatening me and physically attacking him etc) but now that sympathy is wearing thin. Her and I live in different countries which works well as it means we have very limited interaction but I have dealt with years of bullying by her, predominantly online or conveyed through him. I've never fought back because I don't want to make it worse but recently I made the decision that I was no longer going to let her control my behaviour or my happiness. In the past his children have defended me when she has attacked me which I find very saddening as they should not be put in this position and have actively told her that it is none of her business what their dad does in their personal life. She will explode at the smallest thing (most recent example being that he and I had been on holiday together which apparently was unacceptable). She stamps her feet and threatens all sorts, making very nasty comments to the kids about him and I. Whilst it's not pleasant by any means, I could deal with it if I felt he was on my side. He panders to her whims to a ridiculous extent and it drives me to distraction! When she's in a good mood or wants something from him, she will send endless messages trying to be all cutesy- at one point this escalated to sending a naked selfie!!! The bit that really upsets me is that when she's in one of these phases he does not see how inappropriate it is. Even when it's not so extreme as that example he cannot see that them speaking about non-child related topics on a daily basis is actually quite inappropriate and whilst I don't make a fuss it does upset me as she's just being manipulative. He goes back every weekend to see the children (which I fully support) but when he is there and she is with her boyfriend she has nothing to say to him but during the week (which is our time together) she is constantly in contact. Am I being unreasonable that it upsets me that he doesn't take my feelings into account or see that it is not appropriate to let her be so involved in our relationship (we are talking constant messages about how he should break up with me)? All I want is for him to realise that it's not ok and way outside the parameters of co-parenting and to be on my side when she abuses me.

OP posts:
paulapompom · 09/09/2015 16:44

Tricky I'm sorry, I assumed you had a relationship with the children. Tbh the more I hear about him the more I feel for you. The children have met ex's bfs, you are a constant in ohs life, and as pps have said, you sound lovely. Why on earth is hepushing you away. No wonder you are upset. I think you will have to be really clear with him that his behaviour is hurting you badly. It's no way for you to live, with your needs and feelings being ignored and him not acknowledging any problem.

Flowers
amarmai · 09/09/2015 17:02

op is it your house that he moved into? Are you leaving your house when he/she say that you cannot meet his children? where do you go when you leave?

WhereYouLeftIt · 09/09/2015 17:11

"When they come here I move out and disappear"
"dp finds the thought of me meeting them very difficult"
Shock [anger]

"I don't think he's deliberately trying to be hurtful or dismissive of my feelings but he just doesn't understand or empathise (which in itself is infuriating!)."
The not understanding, if that truly is the case, is pretty key here. Because it basically means he will never see that what he is doing is wrong. And it is wrong.

I'm sorry OP, but be honest - do you ever see this ending? Have you even discussed this with him, or does he find that difficult too? In a couple of years both these children will be adults. Will he still be financially supporting her then? Even when his children no longer live with her? Will you be allowed to meet them they be allowed to meet you once they are adults? Or will you still be expected to leave YOUR home?

I think you have to decide what you want from life. And ponder the saying 'If you do what you've always done, you'll get what you always got'. Are you happy with what you've got?

AnyFucker · 09/09/2015 17:13

Also not to derail but any do you work in an advisory role of some sort? I think you could/should, I like the way you get to the heart of the issue and don't waffle

paula yes, kind of

AnyFucker · 09/09/2015 17:19

err, I hate to say this but how ex is the ex ?

it sounds very much like his primary relationship is still with her and you are the afterthought

and please stop saying that because he's a man he "doesn't understand"

of course he fucking understands...it just suits him to have you hating on his ex and him keeping the two parts of his life entirely separate

you are being far too accomodating and he is taking the piss

Waltermittythesequel · 09/09/2015 17:23

His ex?

Are you sure??

Trickysitch123 · 09/09/2015 18:46

Apologies for the delay in responding.

In regards to the housing situation - I think i was a little unclear. He has a house in the UK where we live together during the week, at weekends I go to my house in London and he goes to his house in Italy and returns on a Sunday evening. So when I say I 'move out' that was a little unfair of me because whilst it's true that it changes our routine and I leave the place I consider home for now (his house), I'm not made homeless or anything as I do have a house of my own :)!

About the 'Are you sure she's his ex?' thing - don't worry this is something i worried about for a long time but i am sure that it is the case. When she's not being vile and tries to apologise (which does happen occasionally) the one thing she is clear about is that they havent been a couple since long before he met me and that she is happy in her own relationship(s).

We both know that we won't be together forever as we want different things in the end (e.g. I would like to have children) but for now he makes me really happy (most of the time) and most importantly, is my best friend. He's the person that I want to call when something great or something rubbish happens and the person I can sit watch Bake Off with in my pants whilst eating curry and feel like the happiest person on earth, and maybe it's weak of me, but i'm not willing or ready to give that up yet.

You are all speaking so much sense and I know that I need for things to change and to be more visual in his life but it's very hard to achieve when you feel like you are bashing your head against a wall every time you bring it up. To be fair to him, there have been significant changes over the last few years but we still have a way to go. As I said in my original post, everything would be so much bearable if I felt like I was listened to about his relationship with her and how upset and uncomfortable it makes me. I have loads of things to tackle, but for now, that's the key one. No idea how i'm going to do this when he doesn't see the problem but guess I need to just keep trying!

OP posts:
WhereYouLeftIt · 09/09/2015 18:52

"We both know that we won't be together forever as we want different things in the end (e.g. I would like to have children) but for now he makes me really happy (most of the time) and most importantly, is my best friend. "

And how exactly do you expect to meet someone with which to have children, while you spend your fertile years being his friend with benefits?

Sorry to be so harsh OP, but when you know you "won't be together forever", why are you putting yourself through this level of anguish?

AnyFucker · 09/09/2015 18:55

How old are you, op ?

Charley50 · 09/09/2015 19:01

OP, you've got to let this guy go. You should have met his children by now but you haven't because he's more concerned about his exes feelings than yours.
You want kids. You won't meet the man to have kids with while you are wasting years with this one.

Osolea · 09/09/2015 19:11

If you already know that your relationship isn't long term, then yup can't reasonably expect to meet his children so that you're not left out or expect him to change his other relationships for you.

It does sound like this woman is a bit loopy and that's she takes things too far, but YABU to think that they should only talk about things related to their children. There's no reason why they shouldn't talk about whatever they want, I don't see it as inappropriate at all. It's not fair for you to say that on one hand you will be splitting with him at some point, and on the other to expect that he should sour an important relationship in his life just because it makes you uncomfortable.

If it's not meant to be, then let it go.

tableanadchairs · 09/09/2015 19:13

Jesus OP what the hell are you doing.Shock
You say that this man in not your"happy ever after" so why are you hanging about wasting time.
Let him go and play games with his ex.
you deserve and want better than this relationship

Pidapie · 09/09/2015 19:25

Oh dear, you really ought to find a better situation for yourself. Perhaps just be friends instead??

Waltermittythesequel · 09/09/2015 19:42

You're being ridiculous.

Why are you dealing with this shit and spending all your time with him if you're not in it for the long haul? You're wasting your time.

goawayalready · 09/09/2015 19:43

sounds like your the tolerated other woman

he fully supports his ex financially and emotionally his kids are not a part of your life he chooses her over you

are you sure you feature in any part of his life?

AnyFucker · 09/09/2015 19:55

you are his Weekday shag

sorry

by that token...

Jw35 · 09/09/2015 20:01

^^this

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