Page 3 | Child free flights. would you pay extra?

mummytime · 03/09/2015 22:47

The worst flight I had was back from New York with my two under 5s; and a whole school party - spread around the cabin. They made so much noise you couldn't hear my little one cry herself to sleep (we've since found earplanes).

I've also been on a Train where a drunken middle aged man kept everyone awake discussing his recent sex life in Paris - I didn't want to know!

Lurkedforever1 · 03/09/2015 23:08

We already have that option. It's called business class.
Never been bothered by a baby or a kid on a flight. Unless you count some entitled family that involved mum and dad kicking off they couldn't have people moved to seat them all, as in about 8 of them together. I was one of the rude bastards who declined to sacrifice my bulk head seat so mummy twat could use it for her baby. As of course me flying on my own with a baby was easier than for her with her extended family.
Otherwise my only problem has been someone who should have bought two seats, and some rude twat who thought the airline staff were his personal staff and spent several hours shouting his demands.

SunshineAndChampange · 03/09/2015 23:13

ive never had an issue so far with children on a flight, except one who stole my window seat and i felt bad telling her to move, was annoyed though, secretly!

cuntycowfacemonkey · 03/09/2015 23:18

Ha Ha "mummy twat" really made me laugh I think all the peppa pig characters should be renamed this too.

IHaveBrilloHair · 03/09/2015 23:29

Yes, I was on a train with "that mother", and her kids today for two hours.
Sit down, sit down, no you can't have a biscuit, eat your biscuits, stop running, sit down, you are greedy, I said no, get out of the toilet, stop banging on the toilet door, sit down, stop running, I said no juice, let your brother in the toilet, no biscuit, stop running, we are going home, no chocolate, sit down, I will tell Grandma, stop running, sit down, you never behave, I'm phoning Grandma, sit down, wash your hands, don't lock the door, get out of the toilet, greedy boys don't want more biscuits, no juice, stop running.

In an aggressive tone for two hours.
Ugh.
And I went to use the loo which was out of order because said children had been allowed to break it, and no, I don't blame them, I blame the parent, still would pay to be nowhere near them though.

Lurkedforever1 · 03/09/2015 23:37

What do you think inspired me? I mentally called them it during the flight, there was daddy twat, granny and grandad twat, and one I decided was aunty twat. And some more who's names I forget. They lived up to it by kicking off that after kids meals it was pc gone mad because 'that' family got served first. Until it was pointed out that all the vegetarian meals had been given out first and 'that' family had been served along with all the other veges.

TattyDevine · 03/09/2015 23:44

You get children in Business class Lurked. Mine, for instance...

Lurkedforever1 · 04/09/2015 00:09

Mine has too free upgrade, and she wasn't the only one. They aren't usually of the noisy variety or in the same ratio though which is what I thought people were objecting to.

redstrawberry10 · 04/09/2015 00:25

earplugs. max a pound a pair. my best friend. your best friend.

bessarabiantiger · 04/09/2015 00:28

Never had a problem with kids on a flight (and we do long haul 15+ hours every year).

If we encounter parents having problems we offer sympathetic help, if parents are a PITA we file it alongside adults who can't seem to behave themselves on flights.

offer me a booze-free/child friendly flight? Totally up for that.

bessarabiantiger · 04/09/2015 00:34

Oh fuck, just saw the free upgrade snootybollocks.

children are noisy when they're noisy, people are twats when they're twats, everyone gets where they're going. Book a private jet if it hurts you.

Bogeyface · 04/09/2015 00:42

Nope.

Kids are not the problem, the parents are.

Would I pay extra to sit on a flight where the shite "Its my holiday so I am getting pissed and I dont care what my kids do" parents are on another flight.....in fact on another holiday altogether and the kids are looked after by competent caring people? Yes, yes I would.

Bogeyface · 04/09/2015 00:48

I wouldn't care where they sat as long as they don't scream in fear/pain/temper/terror/anger for 3 solid hours.

I assume that you know that they are not doing it to piss you off?

If a child is screaming in fear, pain or terror then I would hope you would have more sympathy. If its temper/anger then its not great but as long as the parents where doing their best, I would feel sympathy there too.

Or do you think that the parents incite this behaviour just to bloody annoy you because you are sooooo important to them......

TheCatsFlaps · 04/09/2015 01:01

All it takes is for me to fix the wee fucker wi' ma stare and it sobs quietly into mummy's ear. Problem solved!

IHaveBrilloHair · 04/09/2015 01:49

Fear, pain or terror I can sympathise with, and put in my ear plugs, running and leaping about, breaking toilets, standing on my feet, not so much.
I don't fly anymore, but I'd pay to get away from kids on trains.

IHaveBrilloHair · 04/09/2015 01:53

TheCatsFlaps
DD does the stare now.
She's 14 and we live in a close with a bunch of ned kids out the back, she goes out with the stare and they scarper.
I can see why, that stare bloody terrifies me!

Moopsboopsmum · 04/09/2015 01:58

We fly long haul with our DC all the time, no problems. Rude remarks and asking to be moved from other passengers but also lovely comments from men who travel a lot, missing their kids and wanting to have a play! The worst thing I have ever seen was this past winter on an early morning flight from LDN to a European Ski destination. Just starting to taxi and a young guy (European not British) on his way back from a stag in London VOMITED into the lap of the well dressed lady next to him. TOTAL mayhem. So no, kids aren't the problem. Adults who don't know how to behave are the issue.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 04/09/2015 02:06

Nope. But then I never fly without my children anyway these days, so it would be a bit bloody pointless.

Proginoskes · 04/09/2015 02:08

"Extra"? Fuck, I'd pay double. I don't dislike kids. I LOVE kids. I have four kids. But time spent on a plane, if there's an upset/ill/scared kid anywhere near you is a special kind of hell because the way I usually cope - getting up and moving somewhere quieter - isn't possible.

nooka · 04/09/2015 02:12

I rather like flying with children. On our last journey (8hrs plus 2hrs flying) there was a tiny newborn baby a couple of rows back and watching his parents look after him was lovely. Then there were two small girls flying for the first time that were incredibly excited. They were a bit loud, but very sweet, even when the smaller one tantrumed a bit about some trivial issue. Mostly when I see small children I just think how nice it is that I don't have ones of my own any more

nooka · 04/09/2015 02:13

I do have noise cancelling headphones though, and they are fantastic.

PowderMum · 04/09/2015 03:57

I fly long haul scheduled flights at least 3 times a year not usually on Stag/Hen routes so generally the adults are not drunk and rowdy also many of my flights are on United and they charge you for alcohol which I am in favour off as it cuts down consumption.

I have no problem with kids being on the flights but the noise of a crying toddler means I can't relax or sleep. Just flew 13 hours on a flight with at least 5 and there wasn't more than 15 mins when one of the wasn't crying. I am sure that the parents tried to calm them down they certainly spent enough time moving around, letting their children walk up and down the aisle poking passengers. However it is draining and so yes I would have preferred a quiet adult 10 plus age flight.
Just to note I have from with my kids for the past 16 years from 18 months old. Mine didn't cry but would have been happy to be in the child area/flight when yonng

SteveBrucesNose · 04/09/2015 04:10

Absolutely usually it's called business class which I do wherever budget permits

We did 11.5 hours direct to the Maldives for Christmas a few years back, had extra legroom seats in the middle of a 2-4-2 configuration. Legs outstretched and sleeping, there was a group of 4 kids running in circles around the cabin, and knocking into us, waking is up, and the mum had the audacity to come and shout at me and DH for having outstretched legs and tripping their children up! The stewardess asked her to get her children to sit down, to which she replies that they'd paid good money for the holiday and should be able to do as they wished. Stewardess said the same thing about us - and that we'd paid
Extra for the extra legroom we hadn't, it was a lucky seat allocation in the airport so that we could stretch out, and it was overnight and the majority of passengers wanted to sleep. All this time, the kids were still running the length of the plane and only when one crashed into a
Woman holding a hot cup of coffee
And drenched himself did she make them sit down and behave..

Thank fuck I was ridiculously excited about my holiday or I'd have been utterly stressed

AnotherTimeMaybe · 04/09/2015 04:12

Lurkedforever1 hope you're not flying business class just for that, you will always get children on upper classes! We flew business class on a ten hour flight with two young children and yes both DCs were making some noise (1 very young baby at the time ) but nothing too much and we got the occasional stare. Tbh if people think they are getting business class and they automatically own the plane, they are disillusioned !

And by the way for those of you who don't like children on flights I would pay extra for co passengers to stop touching my children's tummy and hands every time we are trying to go to the toilet

AnotherTimeMaybe · 04/09/2015 04:14

SteveBrucesNose ok fair enough I'd pay bloody extra too in that case!