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Not Inviting Passive Agressive "Friend" to Stay Over ??

28 replies

RockinHippy · 30/08/2015 16:30

Long story, will try to be brief, but difficult, please excuse any unintended drip feed...

On the back of one of those silly Facebook quiz things done by an old friend, where myself & another mutual old friend names came up together. The seeds of a reunion evolved - lovely idea, we've not seen each other for over 10 years but used to be close & hung out together along with a couple of others, all the time, but takes some planning as we are a bit scattered, older kids etc.

My daughter is long term ill, so getting away is probably most difficult for me. I live in a holiday place by the sea with lots to do. Friend A, who lives furthest away from us all suggested we meet here or London - so I invite them both to stay here if they do choose here. Friend B agrees with this & they start to talk dates.

Friend C then joins in the comments inviting herself to the reunion - which of course no one minds as she was a good friend of us all back then too.

However I have had some problems with C over more recent years, to the extent where I deleted her on Facebook & don't bother with her anymore- she's become very manipulative, passive aggressive & demands I mother her - which I suppose I always did a bit when we were younger as she was a few years younger than me & only 16 when I first met her via work, took her under my wing, went on to give her a job running my shop unit etc etc. as she was so unhappy where she was. We lived close to each other & in order to come out, she always needed walking home, a long way out of my as she was scared etc - so I suppose I created a rod for my own back that I didn't expect to run into our fifties - but as far as C is concerned it does - but she only does it with me, no one else.

Lots more situations have arisen over the years with her, holiday from hell in our 40s where she behaved like a spoilt brat & I was left out of pocket had me back off a lot & then she cut me out after I had DD, though when I eventually text her after hearing nothing from her since 6 months pregnant - DDs first birthday, she blamed her dads death - I knew her dad well & would have paid my respects.

We kind of hooked up again after she was seriously ill & I softened as a result. Last time she stayed her, she was a pain, always acts very sweet innocent & lovely, but makes damned sure she always does things on her terms. I have health problems too & yet I still found myself manipulated into doing more than I could cope with, because I was made to feel she was more ill, which was kind of true as she was recovering from Cancer, but she seemed far fitter than me - plus she was bloody rude - I spent several afternoons shivering in the sea front whilst she chatted with all in sundry for hours on end on her phoneHmm list & lots more

Last straw was my responding to yet another of her overly dramatic "I need better friends" posts on Facebook- she's very immature in how she acts at time & she twisted it all in a very dramatic passive aggressive way, with post after post to make me look as bad as possible, when I was trying to helpful by pointing out that she shouldn't take things so personally. She has never apologised & generally doesn't see what she did wrong - acts all innocent etc - I deleted her from my own Facebook to avoid any more of it as I got fed up of her attention seeking.

So now, after joining in & inviting herself to the get together - which is fine & I certainly wouldn't be rude to her, happy to treat her as an acquaintance & enjoy a night out with them all

She has then backtracked & done her now usual dramatic me, me me, by apologising for butting in on the thread as she clearly wasn't invited, can see by reading that she is excluded & I won't bother you all have a good time" Hmm - cue A&B reassuring her lots that she's part of the gang & not to be silly & suddenly the arrangements are centered around C - she has no DCs or work, now cares for her DM, but has plenty of back up from her close family who live streets away.

The only thing she was excluded from, was the invite to stay here - yet she would have the easiest journey of all to here & has already said she cant stay overnight anyway, without any real raason I can see - again trying to have the venue on her doorstep - which I wouldn't mind as I can get there easily enough to I suppose, but will mean a big expense for the others

I haven't replied yet, but feel annoyed that she has once again backed me into a corner & whatever I say or do, bar invite her to stay here, will make me look bad Hmm I don't want to invite her as its not convenient, I don't really want to be good friends with her any more as she is just too high maintenance & has shat on me too many times, but I now feel put on the spot & I know if I invite her, she will accept as I'm pretty sure that's what she is angling for

AIBU, should I just swallow it & invite her for the sake of harmony & everyone else ??

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BrendaandEddie · 30/08/2015 16:37

facebook

its shit

HedgehogAtHome · 30/08/2015 16:40

Do not invite her to stay.

ImperialBlether · 30/08/2015 16:44

If it wasn't for Facebook this wouldn't be a problem. You could have whoever you wanted to stay and other people wouldn't hear about it.

How honest can you be with the others? Can't you explain that you don't really want her to be there but would love to still see them?

If you can't, I'd rather not see any of them.

cheapskatemum · 30/08/2015 16:45

Difficult one, I would invite her, but state the facts as you've posted on here to friends A & B. If C accepts the invitation, ask A & B to help you out if you find yourself struggling with boundaries when C is around. I think you could be more assertive with C, for example she could only keep you shivering on a cold beach while she chatted on her phone because you allowed it. I hope you all have a lovely weekend.

Lilaclily · 30/08/2015 16:46

I'd leave and see what the others suggest

Lilaclily · 30/08/2015 16:46

Sorry 'I'd leave it'
Don't comment further & see what the other two suggest

Patapouf · 30/08/2015 16:48

Don't invite her to stay, simple. If she has the cheek to bring it up say 2 is your limit!

BuggerLumpsAnnoyed · 30/08/2015 16:50

the only bit where you sound unreasonable is where you mention her recovering from cancer only meant her thinking in that she was more I'll was "kinda true" I mean I don't know what your health problems were but Jesus Christ you should of thought of your words more carefully

Lilaclily · 30/08/2015 16:53

Oh yes good idea to email other two and do all arrangements off facebook

sonjadog · 30/08/2015 16:59

Don't invite her. Don't respond at all. You didn't notice her comment. It happens on fb. If pushed, you only have room for two. Continue all arrangement in private mail with the other two. If necessary, tell them that you are not keen to spend the weekend with her, without going into specifics.

PunctureMuncher · 30/08/2015 17:02

Glad you kept it brief, she sounds ok actually, let her stay and see how it turns out.

Maudofallhopefulness · 30/08/2015 17:11

Don't respond. And if she does come be determined not to be manipulated. Just practise saying 'that doesn't work for me'. It is hard to stand up to this sort of person, but you don't have to be rude, just very firm.

emotionsecho · 30/08/2015 17:25

Do not invite C to stay, do not give in to being manipulated, it is your home you decide who stays there.
Contact friends A & B in person off FB, talk to them and explain what the issues you have/have had with C are.
If A & B are determined to include her and you are happy to see her agree, BUT reiterate that C is not staying with you and needs t make her own arrangements to join you at wherever it is you have already decided to go to.
Failing all that just cancel the whole thing.

gamerchick · 30/08/2015 17:33

Say nothing and if the other 2 ask you only have room for 2 and frankly she does your swede in if you spend more than a few hours with her.

She's probably going to engineer something so the night won't go as planned though if you don't invite her.

AyeAmarok · 30/08/2015 17:44

You know how this get together will go now, don't you, whether she stays over or not?

It will be all about her, you will be wrong whatever you do.

Reubs15 · 30/08/2015 21:00

Why didn't you all arrange it via a private message or something rather than for the world to see?

You both sound quite immature if I'm totally honest. If you don't want her to stay don't invite her. Simple.

DontMindMe1 · 30/08/2015 23:20

AIBU, should I just swallow it & invite her for the sake of harmony & everyone else ??

No!!!!! Not unless you want to be treated like a doormat and a mug by her YET AGAIN. Just let your other friends know what the score is with her, tell them you will NOT tolerate anymore attention seeking behaviour from her and refuse to engage in any conversation on fb with her.

tell your other 2 freinds that you would much rather it was just you 3, if they don't want that then decide whether you will be putting her straight if she acts up or tries to change your plans.

in future keep those kind of conversations private.

DontMindMe1 · 30/08/2015 23:21

and don't ler her stay at your house or even come in for 'one drink'.

DarkNavyBlue · 30/08/2015 23:27

I would finalise the arrangements with the other two by e mailing them and explain to them why. Just say she's messed you around in the past and though you were happy when she contacted you all by facebook, you can feel it's happening again (no need to go into massive detail)

If you let her be part of this meeting you will be dreading it.

Fatmomma99 · 31/08/2015 00:18

Your house, your rules!

Lilaclily · 31/08/2015 00:21

darknavyblue has it

please please op don't be the mug in this sceanrio

RockinHippy · 31/08/2015 16:44

Thank you, all of you for the replies, for the most part they have boosted my resolve.

I am going to stick to my guns & not invite her to stay - slightly awkward to say there is no room, as I did say if she was stuck, we could maybe try & make room for As DD & DH could babysit, but recent developments have made me more determined to have nothing to do with C. who is manipulative narcissistic cow

That said A is going through a really hard time, big life change etc, so this get together though impromptu, is a bit of lift & a reminder for her that she had a life before & will again. So for her sake I am more than happy to get together with all of them & treat C with respect & be friendly enough, though at a distance, as I don't want to rekindle the friendship IYSWIM

I will take darkblue & a few others advice & contact the others directly & explain without going into too much detail.

Though seems C has beat me to that & with her later comments has pretty much taken over what & where, so you are spot on gamerchick - it's now an afternoon get together on her doorstep Hmm & she can't get access to the internet often do wants us all to text & call her to finalise arrangements instead - though I notice that A hasn't replied either, so there's a slim possibility that she is seeing through C too, especially as she has said earlier that a night away would be great

& apologies buggerlump I did word that badly, I meant to say she was in remission - not sure if that was autocorrect or a brain blip as I have a lot going on here right now & sleep is a bit elusive as a

My comments also referred to my speaking with another close friend who was dealing with the same thing, but worse at the time & who was annoyed on my behalf at how C behaved when here - basically amongst other things I could only get around with crutches at the time, C had made a big deal about how badly effected she was by the aftermath of her illness & how she wouldn't be able to do much when here, but we could just rest & catch up. When here, she played the life limiting illness guilt trip card & wanted to do the world - shows every night, walking miles everyday, she ran me ragged & I ended up in bed for 2 weeks after she left.

For those asking why arrange on Facebook- it was an impromptu idea that came out of a daft shared post, no planning involved, just shared memories evolving into the idea of a get together, which is one of the things I love about Facebook & again, I don't have a problem with C being part of it, I just want to keep my distance from her, though she seems to have other ideas & I don't doubt she's playing the whoa is me, why is she blanking me card. I did have her blocked on Facebook, but unblocked a few weeks back after DH saw her posting old photos in a mutual group - I'm regretting that now as despite her supposedly having such bad internet connection - she is currently stalking me around Facebook & commenting on everything I'm mentioned in or reply to - some of my photos are open to friends of friends, so can share & she's now going through my albums liking & commenting on them all, do I will be blocking her again

Generally I like Facebook though, we have friends & family scattered all over the world & it's a good, easy way to keep in touch with everyone

Thanks again for reminding me to stick to my guns - I'm usually pretty tough with speaking up, but the pity me guilt trip thing makes it all the more difficult, as she will make sure I look bad regardless - I'm damned if I do & damned if I don't

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DotaDay · 31/08/2015 16:53

It was daft to discuss the meet up online in public. It may have come over as'passive aggressive' to her.

I'm not sure what I'd do as it would depend on the other two friends.

Hygge · 31/08/2015 17:22

It sounds like the discussion to meet up evolved quite naturally though.

I've seen a lot of those posts recently about who is your angel and who is your devil, and two people are named with the original person in the middle.

If it was something like that, and helped you reconnect with a mutual friend you'd lost touch with, it does seem quite natural to start a conversation on that post that goes from "how are you after all these years" to "we should meet up again" to "okay, when and where".

It doesn't have to be a slight to anyone else if that happened.

I would not invite friend C to come and stay.

And if A and B decide to change the arrangements to suit C without consulting you, I think I might say "actually that won't work for me now but have a good time" and then contact them privately to re-arrange the original plan for a different time, and keep C out of it.

And change your Facebook settings. Even the most private settings are a bit crap but at least she won't be stalking you through them. And all it would take for her to see them again is a second account, which many people have for various reasons, so blocking might not work as well as you think.

IHeartKingThistle · 31/08/2015 17:29

You obviously don't like her, so don't see her. You don't come across as a lovely person yourself on this thread though tbh.