The 13%

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Apparently we are losing our identity to immigrants. It's the massive figure of 13%. Now, the biggest bugbear I have with this is that my Mum came from South Africa in 1949. Just when the Afrikaans came into power and decided my Mum and her family where the wrong colour. Thank God Britain gave my family a home. God knows where I would have ended up without the UK. ( I heard this crap from my North east born, never been anywhere else £100,000 per year manager).

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I'm a first generation economic migrant.
I'd be conciliatory if the press were.
But, as randommess says, we incomers have been picking up the pieces for many many years
Why would any charity faff about with our oral histories, we know why we are here and we know what we are doing to make a living.
Its simple.

Random so people only qualified to do low-skill work, (who will be on fairly tight income whatever they do) want to remain near their families and support networks in their existing housing (which may have been hard to obtain) and that makes them what? Lazy? Stupid? Lying about the local employment situation? Deserving of censure and mockery? Give me strength.

Not everyone can be well paid/graduates/breathtakingly adventurous/risk embracing.

Losing our "identity"? What is our "identity"? Its bollocks. What are people worried about exactly?

You're not addressing 'the press' Talk; You're on MN stereotyping native Brits as lazy 'scroungers'. What do you think that achieves?

Pretty much the same as describing all foreign born as asylum seekers

Pretty much the same as describing all foreign born as asylum seekers

Who's done that?

Telegraph
Mail
Express
BBC until they re edited
most local papers

we are the 13% : we get peed off with bad reporting

Well you carry on with your bizarre response of slagging off Brits on MN. I'm sure it will make the broadsheets think twice and spread better understandingg

I'm not vain enough to think they give a shit what I think about that.

Other matters I run rings round them, but not that one

The point of oral histories, collated, would be precisely to aid public understanding that 'Migrant' covers a range of circumstances and to encourage empathy.

And then the more stupid parts of the media are circumvented.

Oral history work with refugees and asylum seekers specifically, as a sub-group, could also be therapeutic for the participants.

I deal with charity accounts day in day out

who pays? and why ?

Local government used to but they have had 35% budget cuts in the last 5 years
so it has to be private
who and why would pay

Various bodies, trusts, individuals might. Charity funding is never a walk in the park, is it?

Yanbu. Unless someone can trace their family back to the ancient Britons with no other race at all, we're all immigrants, some just more recent than others. Iirc either Manchester or Liverpool had something like 40% Irish population at one point, doesn't seem to have done any harm.
There are major problems with current immigration policy, supply and demand for low paid unskilled jobs being a huge one. But changing the English culture? Is it bollocks. Immigration itself isn't the problem, even historically, the problem is always how it's been implemented.

but why?

I'm currently trying to chase down funding for an incredibly worthy cause and its a nightmare

charity trust funding is down over 25% in the last 5 years

the number of rich pensioners able to help at charities will plummet in the next ten years

"oral history " is a sweet idea, but is irrelevant in the scheme of things like pension funds

I don't know about 'sweet'. I think cross-cultural understanding is vital to 21st century UK society.

We might have less idiocy like that described in the OP then.

I think cross-cultural understanding is vital to 21st century UK society.
WTF
My family owned huge chunks of Kent and Scotland in the 1600's then moved abroad for a couple of centuries

you are a racist if you think that my cultural background is less British than yours just because I took a break overseas

PS very distant cousins still own the same land

Sorreeeee we came over here, it was the potatoes y'see.....

Ha Prize for the biggest leap of (il)logic goes to Talk

Stuart supporters, talkin? Or religious refugees? Interesting.

Business opportunities

I wish people would stop separating people into, "refugee" and "economic migrant" and deeming one moral and fabulous and the other not.

Because someone who is in debt to landowners and seed producers, doesn't know how they will plant a crop this year, thinks his family will starve is an economic migrant. Someone fleeing the fail of rains, knowing that famine is coming; economic migrant. Someone who can't send their kids to school; economic migrant. Someone who thinks they will have to contemplate selling one of their girls to the people who come and buy under-age girls to 'work' in the city to keep the family afloat; economic migrant.

Their choices are no more unfathomable than the refugees.