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To walk down the aisle on my own? Church wedding

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CookieDoughKid · 28/08/2015 15:22

My parents have their own issues namely:
They are usually horrifically late to events. Minimum lateness is an hour. So much so, my parents missed my sisters graduation - in its entirey. Secondly, my Mum doesn't like being out of the house in any social situation and she inferred that being at my wedding - 2 hours drive from her home - is a hassle. She only wants to stay an hour and have my brother driver her home. Booking a taxi home is not permissable - she won't get in it. So my brother and his wife would have to miss out on the rest of the celebrations. My brother is my mum's husband. I mean that in a Freudian sense and she will only listen to him and favours him and she has turned into a child like nature.My mother is naturally a pessimistic womanand physically weak. She has no friends as she thinks non-family people are out to rip her off. She's 60. Dad is 70. Dad is wheelchair bound and can't speak. He isn't all there. He is half paralysed and relies on round the clock medication.

I'm having a church wedding do, andnearby a reception at a hotel. Mum is complaining about staying at the Hotel.

I'm exasperated.

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Katisha · 28/08/2015 17:16

DH and I walked in together. Nobody was giving me to him or vice versa.
And we had four little bridesmaids behind us!

snuffykins · 28/08/2015 17:49

Your dp could meet you half way up the aisle and you walk the second half of it together.

LibrariesGaveUsP0wer · 28/08/2015 17:54

Katisha - sorry, I meant big ones really. I saw one on telly with four big and three small and plus bride and groom and the best man walking the chief bridesmaid it was a bit 'whoah'

bringthenoise · 28/08/2015 19:55

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CookieDoughKid · 28/08/2015 20:15

Hello - update folks. Spoke to my mum and we think it both best she and dad stay out of any active participation at the wedding. Which does mean my brother and his family will be forced to ferry them to/fro and leave the wedding when it suits my mum. I feel bad for my brother - especially his wife. There is unspoken angst in their marriage.

My brother is 35, with a 9month old baby and he still goes to my mum's house 3 to 5 days a week to wash dad/get him out of bed/medical duties etc. My mum just doesn't want anyone else to care for dad and she doesn't see how much a burden they are on brother.

Everyone else does their share however we are all in our twenties and early thirties (and not even married or children). As my dad gets older and mum also becoming increasingly fail - we need to be thinking about external care but they are resolute to not even discussing it and on the assumption brother and his wife should take care of them for the rest of their lives. Shouldn't we be living our lives? It's not like we are poor and can't afford assistance between all of us. Anyway - that's a whole other thread.

So I am walking down the aisle on my own, with bridesmaids, and if I my parents turn up/don't turn up - it is one less stress for me to have to worry about now.

I sort of grieve for the parents I feel I never really had. They clothed and fed me well but they are emotionally stunted, very set in their ways and opinions and my mum's life has and always been going to Tescos and staying at home watching TV. Things like birthdays. I never ever had one. Never received a Christmas present from them. Putting up a Xmas tree was such a chore for mum that it was a rare treat. Going to the theatre - I tried that once and coaxed her to go but we had to leave pretty quick as she found the lights and sounds too loud. And I was never ever allowed friends. They turned up once on my doorstep and demanded to take me away to celebrate when we got our exam results but mum shooed them away.

She was annoyed I had friends. She was annoyed I loved to sing and read. She hated books - couldn't see the point of reading.

Mum always complained life was hard on her, her utter being on this earth and soul sucked any joy out of my childhood living at home, that's why I left as soon as I could.

In terms of moral guidance, support, shared interests and happy times - it was non existent.

And this is the first time I have admitted this. I have never had a conversation with dad more than two or three sentences. They were mostly consisting of commands from dad. I speak English, always have. Been here since I was 3. I have never ever been able to have a decent conversation with dad as I couldn't communicate with him in our mother tongue. He refused to learn English. Mum was the main caretaker and only spoke to us in English. I was lucky to have even saw my dad some days. So that's why we all grew up not being able to talk to dad. Imagine that. How lovely it is to have a chat with your dad and pick up the phone and see how things are. I can't do that with either of my parents.

I swear when they both die. I don't think I would even be that bothered. Really. [Sorry to say, I really am sorry to say that as it's your parents but it's how I feel inside. Void of happy emotions for my parents.]

I'll walk down the aisle to start my new life and that will be a whole new chapter in itself :)

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CookieDoughKid · 28/08/2015 20:16

Sorry - that last response was much longer than intended!

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LibrariesGaveUsP0wer · 28/08/2015 21:45

I am so, so sorry.

I did wonder from your earlier post if you had non UK family background. Are the expectations on your brother partly cultural? Just try to remember that you can't change him, or them, just you and how you respond.

Congratulations in advance.

ImperialBlether · 28/08/2015 22:02

We had some resistance from my parents when both of them became ill at the same time. They said they didn't need any help - they were getting all the help they needed from their children and for some of us it was just becoming too much. Luckily one of my sisters said, "You don't need a cleaner because Sister will do it - is that what you're saying?" and they were embarrassed then and agreed to get a cleaner. Now they have someone to do the garden, too, and have district nurses etc coming in.

If your mum isn't going to feel embarrassed and change things, then you or one of your siblings need to contact the doctor's surgery and insist on a district nurse going out to assess things. From the sound of your dad, there will be disability allowances that can be made to pay for external help.

Your brother then needs to insist he can't go in as often. It will be very hard for him to do that and everyone else in the family will have to back him up.

Flowers for you - it's so hard for you.

Penfold007 · 28/08/2015 22:03

Would your DB walking you down the aisle work? My DD and DSM walked down the aisle together which was wonderful. Really what ever works for you is fine.

IamnotaspoonIamafork · 28/08/2015 22:27

It sounds like you're handling this really well, but what a lot to have going on. Flowers

I walked down the aisle without any parents. The vicar offered to walk in front of me, and the bridesmaids behind, so we made a mini procession - I liked it because I knew he knew where he was going and I felt a bit less exposed!

CookieDoughKid · 28/08/2015 22:30

Aww...thanks for hearing me out all.
Pen - Yes, it's not an issue for me to choose someone else, a cousin or a non-family member. My sister is bridesmaid anyway. I am leaning more on the idea to walk in on my own! Somewhat symbolic to me. Strong and independent.

Yes. We were an immigrant family. Dad always did well and paid his way (manual labour), worked his socks off to give us a life here in the UK. I think it is a hidden issue that's not talked about much at school or elsewhere. Well, no one spoke to me about it. Certainly in the 16 years I was at home in the 80s and 90s, the sort of life I lived - strict curfews, lack of any ''Britishness'' from the moment you stepped got home. It all got left at the doorstep.

I love being British and the fact that here, you can be open and have an opinion and experience wonderful culture and all that entails. It's a hard one to crack as I really think - and it's not applicable to all immigrants obviously - but there are families like mine that are completely closed to the thought of any integration and allowance for daughters - especially daughters - to have any freedom and celebrate secular activities as I think all children should be to experience. And being closed off to society is the main reason my mum and dad are so reliant on their children. They refuse and don't trust 'outsiders' even though 'outsiders' have never done any harm - to them. 'Outsiders' to clean and take care of them is extremely tricky.

Imperial - I know we can have a district nurse to assess and help here. I'm willing to even pay for private care. It's getting them through the door that's the problem. My brother doesn't want to upset my parents. My parents don't want help. Very co-dependent toxic relationship between them whilst my brother's wife is looks on feeling sidelined.

Library It's been very cathartic to hear you say that. Thank you.

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CookieDoughKid · 28/08/2015 22:31

Iam It's good to hear your experience. I never knew there were so many of us walking down the aisle without any parents :)

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RandomMess · 28/08/2015 22:35

Your poor SIL Sad

Enjoy your wedding and wishing you a very happy marriage Flowers

ImperialBlether · 28/08/2015 22:56

It might be time then that surgeries actively promote caring jobs within immigrant communities. Would your parents agree to someone from their original homeland helping them, or is it anyone who is outside the family who is unwelcome?

AcrossthePond55 · 28/08/2015 23:13

Once your wedding is over and you are all settled in, would it do any good to have a meeting with your siblings (and spouses) to discuss your parents? Maybe your brother would be more willing to 'let go' if he knew all of you were behind the idea of getting outside help.

I'm not sure how practical it would be, but would your mother consent to outside help if you presented it to her as the only alternative to your father being removed to a care facility because all of you were no longer willing to put your lives on hold and she is unable to care for him?

imip · 28/08/2015 23:23

I walked in with DH, but I didn't walk up the aisle, we came out a side entrance near the alter.

I hate my dad and really don't like the idea of being given away!

WhereYouLeftIt · 29/08/2015 12:48

"My brother doesn't want to upset my parents."
So he chooses to upset his wife instead Sad? It would be a kindness to make it clear to him that deferring to your/his mother's wishes is storing up a heap of problems for his future, his wife's future, and his children's future.

I agree with Imperial that it might be easier for your brother to have a more normal life if he knows he has the backing of you and your sister.

CookieDoughKid · 30/08/2015 19:42

I'm afraid I don't have the kind of family where we can freely speak our minds without causing exteme offense. My Mum will habour grudges for years over a slight comment even. It's years of conditioning that my parents way is the only way.

Thankfully, I live a good distance away and not involved in their daily lives.

I had a chat with Mum and we agreed it be best they are not involved in the wedding ceremony. Mum isn't interested in any wedding detail and planning. And I've reset my expectations so much that if they are late or miss the ceremony, I won't feel aggrieved. Dad needs about 15 toilet stops during a 50 mile journey and Mum needs regular breaks to ''breathe the air'' so having them travel 2 hours for my wedding is an quite an ordeal.

Thank you for your best wishes on my wedding day.

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 30/08/2015 20:27

I'm afraid I don't have the kind of family where we can freely speak our minds without causing extreme offense. My Mum will harbour grudges for years over a slight comment even. It's years of conditioning that my parents way is the only way

Yes, I imagined that might be the case. Believe me this happens to many, and while culture undoubtably plays a part it can sometimes simply be about control - as the refusal to even get into a taxi perhaps shows

Frankly you sound really wise and well balanced about the whole thing, Cookie - it's your poor SIL I feel for, pushed onto the sidelines while her DH panders to mummy

EngTech · 30/08/2015 21:23

It is "YOUR" day, enjoy it and if others can't make it - Their loss "NOT" yours :)

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