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Mothers income invisible? Child maintenance

40 replies

CocoEnglishChanel91 · 28/08/2015 09:00

Advice please. My boyfriend and I have no children. His son lives with his mum, who earns £20k a year, plus WFT Credits, Child Benefit - and is living with her new partner, a police detective sergeant who earns £50k. Combined household income (including benefits) pushing £80k.

My boyfriend earns £28k per annum, sees his son every week, has great relationship with him. He has to pay over £200 per month to his ex, and has the Child Maintenance people crawling over and vetting his income.

Yet the £80k going into his ex''s household is classed as not being relative. Surely it is?

He's not trying to escape responsibility for paying for his son. Far from it. He's paid consistently from the off (over 15 years ) but it seems ludicrous to me that his ex can have whatever household income she likes and that's not a factor.

It just feels very unfair to be, with everything seemingly weighted on his ex's side.

Why is the parent with care's income not relevant? Doesn't the child have two patents?

From people with experience is what I say about patents with care correct? And could it impact on me if we move in together?

Thanks

J

OP posts:
JeffsanArsehole · 28/08/2015 09:48

The bottom line is he's only paying £200 a month for his son

Which is not even close to half what he needs

And he expects (or you do) someone who isn't the father of his child to pay for it instead of him

£200 a month. He gets off lightly.

iwantgin · 28/08/2015 09:48

it doesn't work like that OP.

I see both sides - as a RP of one child and the step parent of (new) DH's DC.

My XP pays a small amount of maintenance. it isn't enough really -as in it is nowhere near 50% of DS' 'running costs' , but fortunately my current DP earns very well. Plus i work (only part time though).

Should my XP take my household income into account? What my DP earns shouldn't matter. In reality, though, DP is supporting my DS.

On the flip side of this - DP's XP does not work, and receives over and above 50% of DC living costs.

So, what's fair?

None of it really - but the fact is that the DC need to be supported until they are adults.

There is no point getting het up about it - if your DP has been paying CM for 15 years, then the DC must be nearing 18 anyway? then you can worry about supporting DC through university ;)

Osolea · 28/08/2015 09:50

To be fair, I don't think £200 a month is a crap amount considering that it's only for one child and assuming that the NRP also provides a home suitable for that child to stay in.

Lurkedforever1 · 28/08/2015 09:52

Yabu, for all the reasons already mentioned. If she split with her partner and lost her job would you be happy for both you and your partner to pay her 50% of your income each to make it up?
The two fathers I knew who ended up in a similar scenario were actually pleased their kids had a better quality of life through their mothers higher income, not looking at it as an excuse to shirk their responsibility.

Cloppysow · 28/08/2015 09:55

Seriously?

springalong · 28/08/2015 09:56

He has supported his son for 15 years. OK we all probably agree the amount isnt sufficient but he has been there in his son's life all that time. There is approx. 3-5 more years to go of this arrangement. Why in god's name would you want to rock the boat now? If the parents and son have found an arrangement that works reasonably OK that is worth its weight in gold. Hang out on these boards and spend time with those of us who have acrimonious relationships with ex's and you will hopefully realise that.

vaticancameos · 28/08/2015 10:04

My son's dad pays nothing for him. Never even seen him. We barely scrape by in life. It's not fair because being poor means he misses out on many opportunities. I know much at that comes down to a woman like you making him believe he shouldn't have to pay anything. So thanks for that.

SalemSaberhagen · 28/08/2015 10:04

I'll be very surprised if OP comes back.

YABU. And it's none of your business anyway.

Dawndonnaagain · 28/08/2015 10:15

School goes back next week. Hurrah!

3CheekyLittleMonkeys · 28/08/2015 10:56

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fedupbutfine · 28/08/2015 11:33

is she a shit, neglectful and abusive mother as well?

wasonthelist · 28/08/2015 12:09

Op yabvu to start the same thread twice

KingJoffreyLikesJaffaCakes · 28/08/2015 12:41

Your DP sounds a bit like my ex. Resented every penny he ever handed over and is now 'unable to work' because 'the CSA will take all of my money'...

Hmm

Why are you with him. I'd run a mile if my DP bitched about having to give money to his child and expected another man to pick up the tab.

Embarrassing...

ollieplimsoles · 28/08/2015 13:06

We don't know if he is bitching, all we know is that op has taken it on herself to ask mn how she can help her boyfriend get out of paying a measly £200 for his son so he can spend it on her instead

AyeAmarok · 28/08/2015 13:15

Fucking hell, are you serious?

You can't be serious.

I refuse to believe that you are serious.

Nobody can be this stupid, surely.

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