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Cockerel taunted to death

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SuperFlyHigh · 21/08/2015 16:19

AIBU to despair of these children and their parents re this poor cockerel being taunted to death? Sad Angry

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/wildlife/11815183/Zoos-star-cockerel-dies-after-being-chased-by-children.html

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PHANTOMnamechanger · 22/08/2015 08:38

madamarcati, by your argument traditional fox hunting is fine, after all, that's what foxes have legs for? If they get caught and ripped to shreds it's just tough and they should have run faster?

BeautifulBatman · 22/08/2015 08:40

I would've done something. When it comes to animal cruelty I cannot keep to myself. I live in a country where this kind of behaviour is not only very common but not punishable or viewed as bad by a majority. I've seen kids throw stones at animals, spray aerosol in the faces of friendly cats, put elastic bands round cats legs, drag reticent dogs along the street in 45c heat and don't even think about the poor animals feet burning. I've interfered every time. I couldn't not.

3littlefrogs · 22/08/2015 08:41

I was in a local heritage site type of place a few years ago and a couple of families arrived - very loud, had several large dogs, loads of kids, they were dropping sweet wrappers, crisp packets and drinks bottles everywhere.

I didn't say anything because I was worried about the dogs.

It is awful behaviour but it is difficult to confront people sometimes.

BalloonSlayer · 22/08/2015 08:43

I detest children chasing birds (also remember a thread on here where I was shocked that a lot of people said it was OK, especially if they were "only" pigeons Hmm ) but my eyebrows are in my hairline at the emotive language both on here and on the link. I wonder if their cafe serves chicken nuggets at all and whether those chickens suffered any distress before they died?

flanjabelle · 22/08/2015 08:44

The poor thing fitted until it died. This is local to me and people who saw it have been very vocal on local Fb pages. Shame none of them were that vocal when it was happening eh.

MadamArcatiAgain · 22/08/2015 09:05

they have wings so they can take to the air to avoid threats. I a. only talking about pigeons not the cockerel who has clipped wings and can't fly.the zoo is to blame though for exposing him to hordes of children and not giving him adequate cover

MadamArcatiAgain · 22/08/2015 09:06

I trust none of you eat chicken?

PHANTOMnamechanger · 22/08/2015 09:09

eating chicken that is well reared and humanely killed has nothing to do with this scenario at all.

Arkkorox · 22/08/2015 09:11

We saw this at birdworld at the begining of the summer. I did step in. Probably not my place but there were no parents watching and the poor peacock was almost having his tail ripped out.

MadamArcatiAgain · 22/08/2015 09:12

you don't know much about chicken production !!!

PHANTOMnamechanger · 22/08/2015 09:25

you don't know much about chicken production !!!

how the heck can you deduce that then? you have NO idea about how I educate myself on animal welfare etc, or where I source my chicken when I buy it.

are you saying NO chicken is humanely reared and killed?

yes many are produced in terrible conditions, but even that has nothing to do with a thread about an animal being terrified to its death like this.

FWIW our local kids farm actually started selling sausages made from their rare breeds pigs a few years ago - in their cafe and also frozen ones to take home. Due to people finding this a bid odd at first they quickly explained that by having a market for the meat, it helped the rare traditional breeds not to die out. I'd rather buy sausages from there knowing the pigs have had a good life. They are slaughtered less than 10 miles from where they are raised. Totally different from a visitor allowing their DC to terrify an animal to its death though!

BeautifulBatman · 22/08/2015 09:28

Madam, justifying letting your child terrorise any animal by comparing it to chicken nugget production is just pathetic. Allowing a child to behave like that is shitty parenting, end of.

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SuperFlyHigh · 22/08/2015 10:08

littlejohnny - I post this to raise awareness…

it's not just the cockerel it's a tiger who was taunted too in the past.

This is a parenting site and I'm shocked that the parents didn't do anything and that other people didn't go and tell the zoo owners.

and we get on the next page someone trying to justify it so there… there are some unreasonable people.

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SuperFlyHigh · 22/08/2015 10:11

Beautiful that's great what you do.

Also if some of you read my other posts I've posted on the fact someone rescued a stray cat in Dubai etc… so I care about animals and am shocked that anyone could do this.

I've seen news stories where kids/teenagers taunt animals in zoos alone but never with parents/adults present and THAT is what shocks and angers me, that the parents found it amusing. Angry You can excuse a child's behaviour to some extent especially if they're in a group. The adults are pitiful excuses for human beings and should be prosecuted.

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Lurkedforever1 · 22/08/2015 10:19

madam yes, I eat chicken and other animal products. The animals involved have good lives and quick humane deaths, we don't buy intensively reared.
No wonder factory farming is popular though if people are raising kids to think animals don't have feelings.
It may suprise you but pigeons don't have wings to provide amusement for the offspring of callous and useless parents. Kids have legs to run from danger, doesn't mean as a larger adult I would start chasing them for my amusement.

TheMoonOnAStick15 · 22/08/2015 10:30

I also feel angry when I see people letting their dc chase birds about. Yes, they can fly off I suppose, but why deliberately make them feel like they have to? Angry

I daren't even open the links.

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SuperFlyHigh · 22/08/2015 10:33

TheMoon - the cockerel link was upsetting.

The tiger one not so bad but again people taunted it and then wondered why it snapped and mauled someone? I hadn't meant to draw attention to this but the tiger story came up whilst I was googling the cockerel story.

My point is here as well why can't people show respect for animals/birds in zoos etc and leave them alone?

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BigRedBall · 22/08/2015 10:40

God that's horrible. Sad. Poor cockerel. It must have really been running in complete fear if it didn't see the tree. Sad. And to laugh at it dying? What kind of person would do that?

Hnabiz · 22/08/2015 11:52

It probably still had a far better life than the chickens in lidi or kfc have had.

Doesn't make it right. Just talking about the hypocrisy.

BeautifulLiar · 22/08/2015 12:45

Oh god, plenty of chickens are really not humanely killed. DH is unfortunate enough to work in chicken factories (electrician). Horrible.

Toughasoldboots · 22/08/2015 12:48

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Shockers · 22/08/2015 12:53

I hate seeing children get pleasure from annoying animals. I have told other people's children that it's not a nice thing to do, but I do it in a pleasant voice so their parents won't shout at me.

Shockers · 22/08/2015 12:54

Couldn't click the link... I find stories like that very upsetting.

scarlets · 22/08/2015 16:36

The RSPCA is involved now, according to Twitter. There were complaints to them from witnesses.

kali110 · 22/08/2015 17:33

Hope the people are named and shamed.
I agree, I think not stopping your kids terrorising animals or birds is shitty parents.
Saying that chickens have a worse life etc is just a poor attempt at trying to justify it.