to think Camila Batmanghelidjh must be lying when she says she has done nothing wrong in her spending of Kid's Company Charity Funding?

[LuluJakey1]

She is like Jimmy Saville in that what she has been doing has been under all of all our noses and we have refused to speak up about it or believe it.

It is not just the luvvies who have been up close and personal with her- involved with the charity and CB at a very close level, some even Trustees. It is also the employees and the parents of children, the children themselves, the volunteers. We are not talking about a hidden mis-use of funding. We are talking aout a whole culture of open waste and self-indulgence.

I know it is from The Daily Mail but it is actually an interview with het.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3199527/My-heart-clear-says-Kids-Company-boss-Batmanghelidjh-admits-charity-paid-school-fees-employees-children-denies-wrongdoing.html

£5000 a month rent on an Art Deco House with private swimming pool - which houses a member of staff, and the swimming pool is used by CB but hot by any children- they are 'not allowed' (her words)

£40,000 chauffeur- now a specialist worker (according to CB). also has private school and therapist funding for his 2 children.

Staff( how many?) have their children sent to private schools because the job is stressful and it is part of a 'staff well-being package'

The Chauffeur's sister is also employed - now as a 'brilliant accountant', last summer as 'the woman who does my sewing' (mind you that would be a full-time job in itself, but it does imply the charity pays for those vile outfits much as I suspected)

25 young people given £769,000 a year funding - £31,000 a year each, to do nothing. They are CB's specially selected young people- many of whom have received funding for many years. She describes them as 'like a family, hanging round the house'. She deals with their funding herself.

Yet STILL CB complains staff should not have spoken up about any of this and implies those who have will suffer for it.

In my view this woman and her behaviours are corrupt, dishonest and immoral.

Are my views unreasonable? I feel this could be jus the tip of the iceberg in terms of what is yet to emerge and prosecutions will be very likely.

I think there should be a down- to the -bone, in-depth investigation of every aspect of the work of this charity and of CB. Not simply any concerns that have now been raised but a complete trawl of the spending, the practices and the behaviours of CB herself.

Yes, she has an interesting take on physiology doesn't she?

I am much larger than I would wish to be. It's because I eat too much

From that psycho woo bollocks article:

I wonder what it would be like working for Camila. The more we speak the more I suspect she wouldn’t be a great lady to get on the wrong side of. ‘I am in love with excellence’ she tells me.

Not in governance, financial probity or service evaluation though....

It's a very sycophantic article.

That's the thing though, isn't it? Almost all of them were until v recently.

No one could criticise her.

Her understanding on neuroscience is so off I don't even know where to start. She has apparently conflated epigenetics with a version of Bowlby's attachment theory and kind of moved out from there, I think. A logical extension of her argument would be that children who lived through WW2 would now be rampaging like pensioner lunatics through our society.

Frankly her grandfather's claims to cure the ills of the world via water look more robust than her idea of science.

Actually that theory does explain the cafe behaviour in our local garden centre. It's cake slices at the ready down there. You take your life in your hands if you try to get the last scone.

I can't claim any specialist knowledge in the relevant area but it all sounds v flaky to me. Although she trotted out the 'neuroscience' as the evidence base for her work again and again and no one seems to have challenged it. Or maybe they did but were ignored?

I can't think of any proper published studies on the neuroscience of neglect and its potential impact on epigenetics (I could check but I am on my phone in the garden and frankly wouldn't expect to fInd anything anyway, as it's a hell of a leap). I say that publicly about a lot of things but we still have welfare and education policies galore based on, well, very little actually.

Don't even get me started about learning styles theory. I might implode messily.

lets be fair here. The neuroscience she describes could be in fact more or less in line with the current thinking, but the journalists have made a hash of understanding and explaining it?

I'm sure she has done a lot of things wrong, but right now, I really can't guess how wrong, and how often....

I hope it will all come out in the end. maybe she was entirely genuine the whole time, but misguided in some respects? Maybe she is an evil genius who has been attempting to take over the world?? I guess the truth is somewhere in between, that she became seduced by her own arguments and judgements, and had no system of checks and balances to pick up that she was going further and further off beam. I could see that happening to me, in the wrong situation.

Don't be daft. There's not many proof who would drive around in a chauffeur driven car wearing fancy dress giving out brown envelopes at the taxpayer's expense and consider that in any way normal, seriously!

People not proof

im confused

does she live in the house with the pool or does she have another place ??

if she lives elsewhere why was the home with the pool rented by KC ??

Given her family are multi millionaires (according to her) why the hell does she need to go swimming in that pool?

not going to mention that she doesn't look like she's done any exercise in years

She's an up herself public school establishment toff who has no life of her own so gets her kicks from throwing cash out into the streets like some kind of Dickensian character who thinks that makes her better than the rest of us.

No she does not live in the large Art Deco house with the pool. It is rented at £5000 a month by KC as a workplace to provide 'therapy' for children who go because they need help.

Except they don't. It is rarely use other than it is lived in by a member of KC staff and CB uses the pool. Children are not allowed to use it. At first she denied using it but a reporter told her they had a statement from a member of KC staff about the house and her use of the pool and asked her again does she use the pool. She looked uncomfortable then admitted it and said she thinks she pays an extra rent rent to use the pool- which makes no sense as she does not rent the house KC charity does.

More perks for CB and her KC cronies at taxpayers' expense.

According to her in the article higher up this page, she can not write or use a keyboard . That in itself is a fantasy. She has a degree and a post- graduate qualification. She went to public school. She is in her 50s. She passed exams in the 1970s and 80s. She wrote.

There is bound to be someone on here who knew her at school. I wondered she could write then?

Has anyone seen any reports/stories from people that either KC or CB has actually helped. It seems odd to me that they claim to have helped 10's of thousands of people over the years they have been open yet other then the children getting envelopes on a Friday I haven't heard or read about one family they have helped.

She has a degree and a post- graduate qualification.

Or so she says, anyway. She'd hardly be the first person to be a little creative with the old CV.

It seems remarkable that as well as there being no-one willing to say "I was helped as a child by KC" there's no-one spinning stories of their time down the student union with colourful and exciting CB. You can't move for people who knew David Cameron at university, and MN has a fair few people who talk of at least knowing some of the Cameroons to nod to across a room at university.

And yet Warwick university in the early 1980s (which is hardly an obscure liberal arts college in upstate New York, nor hardly the late Palaeolithic) seems to have produced no-one who remembers an exotic foreign student with a complex set of support structures in place to deal with her complex and multifarious learning difficulties. What-are-now RG universities in the early 1980s were hardly places of diversity, either in terms of ethnicity or SPLD, and a drama student who can't read or write would surely have sparked some interest?

There were some profiles published of university graduates in their mid-20s having been helped as adults ... and I found some out of school care based in state primary schools that was just normal provision like any outsourced business might offer, i.e. breakfast clubs and after school clubs. Other than that, it's rather quiet ...

There were some profiles published of university graduates in their mid-20s having been helped as adults

What's interesting about those was they were extremely selective degrees from selective universities, too. Given the university uptake from areas of high deprivation is shamefully low, you would not only expect these stories to have been front and centre in KC's promotional material but also to be the tip of a much larger iceberg of clients who'd done perfectly respectable degrees at perfectly respectable places but not quite law at UCL. If you've got someone with AAAA going to a massively selective course, surely you've got ten more doing something decent at good post-92s?

Yes, it's the statistically patchy nature of the profiles that is odd. Nobody doing catering training at Westminster. No hair and beauty trainees. Nobody doing a computer course at London Met (which statistically speaking educates the vast majority of black male undergraduates by a massive margin. But that's a scandal for another time). Nobody doing a foundation degree in early years education. Nobody working in a shop or for the local authority. None of the usual education and training routes for working class kids in London seem to be evident. Where are they all? Instead we are presented with a couple of mini Camilas doing social entrepreneurship after studying law at elite universities, etc. They are not all ending up at places like UCL (clear from the admissions data).

I doubt she has got any formal qualifications other than how to fold a napkin ( Swiss boarding school?) .

Please watch her youtube speeches....there is no consistency in her accent; it is a bizarre mix of faux Arabic/ Jamaican.

Her sister is not registered as having died according to Genes Reunited.

Her real name is most likely something like Julie Smith from Folkstone.

The sheer scale of her scamming is breath taking, there must be a lot of rich sycophants out there to fall for her bullshit.

Makes you wonder how many others out there are scamming the public for their own gain.

I could go on....

Bring on the Daily Fail .

Warwick have an alumni article on one of their websites about her - surely they would have checked she actually attended and graduated before promoting her like that?! Same for the other organisations that have claimed her.

The accent is really odd. I also went to public school and knew various Persian girls whose families had fled the Shah, and they absolutely didn't sound like that. I also know some in adult life, ditto.

I don't think she can have invented the Warwick degree - surely the university would put out a statement if it wasn't true?

I'm sure there must be a basis of truth in a lot of what she says. It's just that there's also a degree of exaggeration.

Is she listed as a registered psychotherapist?