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Aibu to want this presenter fired...

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Princess28 · 12/08/2015 20:07

I'm all for freedom of speech but I think as a radio presenter on BBC you do need to have some standards. He describes (from minutes 9-12) how breastfeeding is 'unnatural' and 'guys' don't want to see it in public. He describes a situation on a bus with a larger lady breastfeeding. He's not a rent a gob guest- he's the presenter. So aibu to want him off the airwaves?

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02y4dz4

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HedgehogAtHome · 15/08/2015 20:44

I hate indiscreet posting. All over the place, over and over. Far more intrusive than breastfeeding of any 'style'.

YonicScrewdriver · 15/08/2015 20:45

Hello newbie multiple poster

Alex Dyke doesn't just have bad manners, he is incredibly rude. So why not focus your repeat posts on him, if manners are your bag?

Whiskwarrior · 15/08/2015 20:46

Manners have fuck all to do with it. Women are being discrete when they breastfeed.

Why don't you have some manners and just not look?

TaliZorahVasNormandy · 15/08/2015 20:46

Cassie, people objecting should have some manners and not stare at women who are trying to feed their children.

Manners works both ways.

fourtothedozen · 16/08/2015 07:50

Breastfeeding isn't always "discreet".

Either you support public breastfeeding or you don't.

fourtothedozen · 16/08/2015 07:57

discreet is to be politely private about something and to be aware of consequences if everyone finds out what you're doing.

ptumbi · 16/08/2015 12:01

discrete means to be separate from. HTH.

And I stand by what I said about B/F women being vulnerable - it is a fact that violence quite often either starts to is ramped up by abusers towards pregnant partners. This carries on into breastfeeding, of course. A woman is incredibly vulnerable during pregnancy and feeding - hormonal, exhausted, her body itself depleted by pregnancy and further by feeding.

Of course she is vulnerable - especially a new mother, unsure, insecure, listening to Prats like this guy (from the actual BBC!) telling her that all men secretly find it/her disgusting, that it is 'unnatural', that she should stay away from public places until she gets her figure back and looks good again. Her breasts, which are sex objects,will sag and swell and leak - not a 'good look', and according to Dyke reason enough to sneer and attack her. She persuades herself that it is worth it, only to be told (again, by the BBC) that Formula is just as good. Why then, wouldn't she get this baby off her, get her body back, use her breasts for their 'natural' purpose (to stay perky, to please her DP) and use a socially-accepted bottle.

Except than, of course, she feels bad that she is FFing, which actually is not really accepted either...

and then it's a short fall into PND or even life-long depression.

Which part of that so you think is not a vulnerabilty?

Pedestriana · 16/08/2015 12:08

Breasts are for feeding babies. End of.
If you don't like it, don't look.

As a presenter on a radio station, when one is broadcasting, one is representing the station. Therefore stating something controversial could be perceived as being representative of the view of the station.

If he'd stated this idiotic opinion off air and had been overheard, that would be different.

FWIW, my DH worked for a charity/trust recently which employs volunteers in their shops. One day when DH was on duty, two of the volunteers were talking about 'immigrants' and citing opinions that were somewhat unpleasant/ill informed. The problem was, they were wearing clothing with the logo of the company they volunteered for, and they were working in space (the shop) owned by their employers. It would therefore not be unreasonable for someone to assume that the company were in agreement/not adverse to those viewpoints.

PosterEh · 16/08/2015 13:33

Has he been sacked yet?

ptumbi · 18/08/2015 09:27

Unfortunately, No.

have you signed the petition?

MrsItsNoworNotatAll · 18/08/2015 09:51

It's sad a breastfeeding Mum would listen to what this Tosspots said and actually believe he might be right!

I mean fucking really??

It's just his opinion. Who the actual fuck is he? No one of any real importance. Just a two bit radio presenter, I'd never heard of him till this.

Unfortunately I know someone who would agree with him. It would be a waste of my precious breath to argue with him that he's full of shit. Instead I ignore him completely.

rowingboat · 18/08/2015 20:27

Perhaps not fired, but talked to, his opinion would be "I don't like breastfeeding" not "all men pretend to support breastfeeding" or "breastfeeding is unnatural" that is just an attempt to undermine breast feeders and make them feel bad about feeding their child - completely out of order.
It can be awkward enough to breastfeed in public without fending off idiots like that. At least he, obviously didn't have the courage to actually criticise the woman he saw breastfeeding, ran away and told his mates.

Endfield1 · 19/08/2015 07:49

It was once just someones opinion that women brain's weren't able to be be educated and that for a husband to hit his wife with a stick was ok as long as the stick wasn't thicker than his finger. Opinions matter and the fact that a person felt it OK to say the things that were said during his employment for the entertainment of the public means that he felt that society would have no problem with his opinions. Well I think we have come further than Mr Dyke thinks - society should say we don't accept his sexist opinions.

ptumbi · 21/08/2015 08:43

Unfortunately Mr Dykehead returned to his show yesterday. Don't know if there was an apology.

Apparently his show is the 'best thing' on Radio Solent....Sad

BBC should pull the plug on the lot, in which case. What a phenomenal waste of Licence money.

FrenchJunebug · 21/08/2015 10:45

YABVU what you are proposing is tantamount to censorship. You can disagree with him.

YonicScrewdriver · 21/08/2015 10:54

Badly done, BBC

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-33995109

I see the apology was 'for any offence caused' rather than 'for making offensive and sexist insults'

ptumbi · 21/08/2015 12:05

French - it's the listeners who say he is the 'best thing' on radio Solent. I feel sorry for them in that case - when there is so much radio of a better quality out there, with witty, intelligent broadcasters who don't feel the need to poke fun at, body-shame and laugh at others. And encourage his listeners to laugh at them too.

And 'censorship'? If he'd said these vile things about blacks, or gays, or disabled people, he would have been taken off the air permanently. And rightly so. Why are vulnerable young mothers not being protected?

FrenchJunebug · 21/08/2015 14:43

I hate the Daily Mail for example and all it represents and says but I would never call for it to be scrapped.

TheRealAmyLee · 21/08/2015 14:46

He is a twat. So are many other so called "presenters" and "celebrities". If he goes can he please take Katie Hopkins with him? I would love to ban them both from all forms of media.

sleeponeday · 21/08/2015 22:27

The Daily Mail is a privately owned company. The BBC is the national broadcaster. It's a false comparison.

And nobody is denying him the right to be a vocally misogynist twatbadger. They're just saying he shouldn't be a vocally misogynist twatbadger in a professional capacity while representing the national broadcaster. There are a lot of companies who would fire staff for saying overtly bigoted things, very publicly, while representing them professionally, because it brings their employer into disrepute.

It seems they're giving Alan Partridge another chance. Let's hope he's learned his lesson and won't ask: sending all them furriners back - what's all the fuss about? next time he wants a tiresomely manufactured controversy.

annab1980 · 23/08/2015 21:33

Guys really hate this!

Grow up men!

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