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To miss the days when people were just 'thirsty'?!

884 replies

Babycham1979 · 12/08/2015 13:43

What's all this shit with, 'hydrating'? It's called drinking fucking water!

Whenever I hear someone claiming to be 'dehydrated', I want to reach for my revolver. No, dear, you're not dehydrated, you're just thirsty. It won't hurt you to wait twenty minutes for a drink.

Advanced capitalism, combined with nanny-statism seems to have fostered a nation of adult-babies who can't got five minutes without a snack, needing a piss, or a plastic bottle to suck on. It truly does my head in.

I can't remember the last time I sat through a film or a play without multiple audience members nipping out at least once during the show. Yes, I do appreciate that SOME people suffer incontinence, or might have needed a shot of insulin but, come on, not on this scale!

OP posts:
thornrose · 14/08/2015 12:34

You saw a trailer? You so watched the whole show! Wink

SquirrelledAway · 14/08/2015 12:34

Google Scholar has some interesting papers on thermal dehydration induced thirst.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 14/08/2015 12:34

You take that back!! Shock

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 14/08/2015 12:35

That was for thornrose.

Tenieht · 14/08/2015 12:35

Drinking water constantly sucking on water bottles is just infantile .

CaptainHolt · 14/08/2015 12:36

The electrolyte this is surely only relevant if you've an unusual loss of electrolytes (from having the shits or something). Normal electrolyte loss will be sorted out with normal food. Taking electrolytes that you don't need will make you retain water but only because you have rammed yourself full of salt. One mans 'ultra-hydrated' is another mans 'too much salt in the diet'. You can't make eating too much salt into a health positive by claiming it makes you more hydrated.

ZingDramaQueenOfSheeba · 14/08/2015 12:37

STDG

well, I'm not sure if taking in salt will hydrate the body more as such.
yes, water retention will occur, but that is due to osmosis and the body protecting itself against guess what - dehydration!Smile
that is why too much salty food will make us more thirsty - there has to be a salt/water balance.

I think what you mean is that after excess sweating (excercise, heat, illness) we lose salt as well as water and to replace both drinking water with a pinch of salt (or whatever people ill want to call it) readdress this imbalance.

at least that is my understanding

ZingDramaQueenOfSheeba · 14/08/2015 12:38

(sorry, I always get your letters wrong way round!Grin )

Tenieht · 14/08/2015 12:39

Personally I never drink during the working day apart from a coffee first thing and a cup of tea mid afternoon. That's it and I don't see why it should be different for anyone else. It certainly hasn't caused any health issues. People just obsess over this. I work with someone who drags her water bottle to every meeting, it just seems so unprofessional.

ZingDramaQueenOfSheeba · 14/08/2015 12:39

*people will
not people ill
ffs

ZingDramaQueenOfSheeba · 14/08/2015 12:41

ok I've just had a big gulp of DD's juice by accident. it was full of breadcrumbs. [bleurgh]
is she just your average 3 y old acting her age or is she a genius, onto the next Big Thing?

Ubik1 · 14/08/2015 12:42

Well the grain of truth is this - people in temperate climates who are not doing sustained physical exercise do need around six to eight cups per day but that can be contained in food, alcohol or caffeinated beverages.
Yes, beer and coffee do not dehydrate you to any noticeable extent (there's a nice paper where some medical students got to drink quite a lot of beer and had their urine studied - British Medical Journal (Clin Res Ed), December 1982, Acute biochemical responses to moderate beer drinking, Gill GV).
There is no evidence that adding the eight cups of water to everything else you drink will do you any good and it could do you harm (American Journal of Physiological - Regulatory, Integrative and Comparative Physiology, November 2002, Drink at least eight glasses of water a day. Really? Is there scientific evidence for "8x8"? Valtin H).
But the great thing is that just like a top-level athlete you don't need to worry about exactly what that total daily requirement is because your body will sort it all out for you.
If you drink too much you pee it out. If you drink too little you get thirsty and pee less. It's all exquisitely well-controlled in the same way that your intake of oxygen is well-controlled.
Saying that you should drink more water than your body asks for is like saying that you should consciously breathe more often than you feel like because if a little oxygen is good for you then more must be better.
Like most things in life there's a Goldilocks amount - not too little and not too much. With this in mind, next week I'll deal with the health benefits of porridge and how to avoid being eaten by bears.

From the BBC

squoosh · 14/08/2015 12:43

'Personally I never drink during the working day apart from a coffee first thing and a cup of tea mid afternoon. That's it and I don't see why it should be different for anyone else. It certainly hasn't caused any health issues.'

Well happily until you declare yourself Kim Jong-un of the Western world people can do what they want when they want in these mundane matters.

I never drink tea or coffee but don't give a fiddler's if other people hook themselves up to a caffeine IV.

FundamentalistQuaker · 14/08/2015 12:45

Anyone else watched 'Idiocracy'? Film set in the future when everyone has become infantilised, lazy and ignorant. They use Gatorade on crops instead of water because 'It's got electrolytes!' Making fun of the whole performance drinks craze runs through the film.

thornrose · 14/08/2015 12:47

Tenieht are you always so convinced that your way is the only way?

BertrandRussell · 14/08/2015 12:48

My da once came out of his room looking for a drink of water, took an enormous gulp from my glass before I could stop him- it was vodka on the rocks. I am hoping it has put him off alcohol for life!

gamerchick · 14/08/2015 12:48

Tea and coffee is rank, I don't know how people drink it.

I don't think I can take an article seriously that says alcohol doesn't dehydrate you. That's a new one on me Hmm

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 14/08/2015 12:50

Is fine, zing - no worries!

Cotto · 14/08/2015 12:50

Tenieht
So just because you don't drink much the rest of us who work in heat and do physical jobs shouldn't???

"drags" im sure she just carries it unless its a barrel Wink

Im loving the hyperbole - suckle and guzzle = drink
drags=carry, particularly when the OP got the rage about "dehydration" Grin

SquirrelledAway · 14/08/2015 12:51

Chronic dehydration is a known cause of kidney stones. I'd rather obsess over drinking water than risk kidney stones.

Feline9 · 14/08/2015 12:51

That's it and I don't see why it should be different for anyone else.

Because you're not special enough to get to dictate what others choose to drink.

Queeltie · 14/08/2015 12:53

Chronic dehydration is rare in the west. Usually only caused because someone has other health problems. So someone with dementia without proper support, may forget to drink and get seriously dehydrated, or someone very depressed.

Drink what you want, but you aren't preventing serious health problems if you are a normal healthy adult by doing so.

ZingDramaQueenOfSheeba · 14/08/2015 12:58

Cotto

it's similar to saying people "gorge" or "pig out" or "munch"
when the action could be easily described with "eat" Wink

Cotto · 14/08/2015 13:05

Not true Queeltie
The elderly are very prone to dehydration ( not only those with dementia)because they lose the ability to regulate temperature, blood pressure and also thirst.
They often don't drink enough because of continence problems.
Go to any hospital and have a look at how many elderly are admitted with falls and uti as a result.
The response to this is to offer frequent drinks in NH/care homes to try and prevent this.

No one has said that by drinking enough fluids you will prevent serious health problems.
I get headaches and utis,fatigue if I don't drink enough , not life threatening but annoying enough.

RabbitSaysWoof · 14/08/2015 13:05

I think the advice for babies is still no extra water needed alongside breast or formula milk, until weaning age. How are they not coming to harm when most 4 month olds can go 4 hours between feeds? and the lack of food when it's supposedly so important to eat often. With smaller stomachs and growing fast they can go longer than older children and adults do without having to ingest something else.