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Is someone entitled to JSA after dismissal?

48 replies

80srockheart · 29/07/2015 07:45

Just that, really - my brother was dismissed recently and has struggled to find a job. He has no income and i am supporting him. what does he need to do?

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ilovesooty · 29/07/2015 09:25

Online and phone. If he claims online he'll receive a job centre appointment and have to attend fortnightly.

fab39 · 29/07/2015 09:27

Op said he was struggling to find work so he is clearly trying granny hope he gets sorted.

ilovesooty · 29/07/2015 09:30

80s once he claims a refusal to go to the job centre isn't an option.

fab39 · 29/07/2015 09:31

Sorry may have misinterpreted your post granny

80srockheart · 29/07/2015 09:34

I think he might go once he knows he can get money and it's okay sooty- but his levels of anxiety are sky high right now Sad

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TaliZorahVasNormandy · 29/07/2015 09:35

Do it online, then in about a day or so, he'll receive a phone call to arrange an appointment to organise his JSA and stuff.

He will be entitled to it if he's been dismissed.

80srockheart · 29/07/2015 09:46

Thanks. This is helpful information - neither of us have claimed benefits before you see.

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Bubblesinthesummer · 29/07/2015 09:49

Right - well if he's autistic it is worth enquiring about any possible disability payments

He would need to honest down the PIP or ESA route before other payments would come avaliable. Unfortunately without a diagnosis at this point in time it would be unlikely that he would be eligible.

Bubblesinthesummer · 29/07/2015 09:50

*need to go down. Not sure where honest came from Confused

caker · 29/07/2015 09:52

I know it isn't relevant for the OP but might be for someone else reading - a PP said you can claim housing benefit once you have got JSA, that isn't correct. You can claim HB at any time, from having no income at all to working full time.

chickenfuckingpox · 29/07/2015 09:54

if he has worked he is entitled to contribution based jsa i dont think they sanction that if you have been dismissed because you have paid that money in iyswim

SchwarzwalderKirschtorte · 29/07/2015 10:05

Lots of the usual misinformation going on.

Much better to contact the DWP/Jobcentre who actually administer the benefits.

80srockheart · 29/07/2015 10:06

Thank you but I don't think I'd get him to actually go in.

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DirtyMugPolice · 29/07/2015 10:10

OP he can get ESA without a diagnosis, it might be more suitable for him in the long run. He can just forward the diagnosis when he gets it. I support adults with autism in benefit applications so do ESA forms all the time. Where abouts are you?

Bubblesinthesummer · 29/07/2015 10:13

OP he can get ESA without a diagnosis, it might be more suitable for him in the long run

True, but it would be harder though. not that it actually could get much harder than it already is

DirtyMugPolice · 29/07/2015 10:14

Just to clarify - having a diagnosis certainly makes getting the benefits like ESA and PIP easier but it isn't essential. And if he's pursuing a diagnosis I'd apply for both as by the time he gets assessed for the benefits he might have the diagnosis by then. I do loads of supporting letters for benefits when people don't have a diagnosis and it all helps (I work for an autism charity)

DirtyMugPolice · 29/07/2015 10:16

bubbles it is bloody hard - DWP make things seemingly as difficult as possible!

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 29/07/2015 10:20

There's always one Hmm Before you start playing little miss Judgemental and smug. Take heed it could be you tomorrow and the money he is going to claim. Is his money. !!
Yes he should be entitled as it was not gross misconduct

Dowser · 29/07/2015 10:20

It does upset when I hear of the club
Bearable people in our society getting a hard time.

My grandson has autism and coming to school leaving age.

I worry about his future.

Lazeedayz · 29/07/2015 10:28

What was DLA now PIP is based on needs not diagnosis. Obviously its easier with a diagnosis but if you are already in the process of getting a diagnosis I presume you have some paperwork from whomever is seeing him.

I would apply for PIP now, have a look at the Cerebra guide for help completeing the forms. Make an appointment at CAB

Good Luck to him, in his Job Hunt.

80srockheart · 29/07/2015 10:28

He's in the process of getting diagnosed which is good. I'm just struggling to support him.

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sashh · 29/07/2015 11:01

Yes he is entitles to JSA and probably housing benefit.

There should be a disability adviser at the job centre, he should make an appointment with them, they can help with claims and also with getting people in to employment with things like trials and also with filling in forms.

Lurkedforever1 · 29/07/2015 11:02

I'm not knowledgeable about claims for autism, but certainly with mh issues like anxiety, depression etc you can initially claim esa, even if their medical assessment later over rules it and you have to swop to jsa.
Whilst he is undoubtedly capable of finding work and doing it, what he doesn't need is to be obliged to apply for and possibly do work that mentally isn't suitable, which could otherwise be the case. Even if he later ends up on jsa, going the esa route gives him not only breathing space, but a better chance that on jsa his obligations will be suited to his capabilities.
Applying online is the preferable way for anyone. Ask for it to be backdated to his last day of employment. Unlikely to happen but nothing to lose and may get him a few days more. State the reason for not applying sooner as the truth, that his social limitations/ autism prevented him going to the Jobcentre to ask, and you his sister had to research it online.
If he says you've been supporting him as a gift, and can financially afford not to get that money repaid from him, they are unlikely to back pay it, it would need to be borrowing to stand a chance of back payment.
If he doesn't pay rent or mortgage even when working, housing benefit isn't applicable. If not, apply for that too online. Likewise if he usually pays council tax, you can get help with that too.
Push for a dx, or at least some medical proof that he can't mentally accomplish some tasks. And good luck

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