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To think I may have poisoned my son? Devastated & terrified!

47 replies

SundayBea · 27/07/2015 09:13

From the age of about 10 months onwards my DS was completely obsessed with keys. He would grab them at any opportunity he got and mouth them all over. This obsession endured and has only really started to lessen in the last couple of months (he's now two and a half). When he was a baby I would take the keys back from him but i admit that when we were out and about it was often easier just to let him have them rather than have him cry. Obviously I supervised him at all times with them but I still worried about germs.
Then a family member got him a set of his own blank keys from a locksmiths when he was about 14 months old. So I sterilised them in hot water and let him get on with it. He loved them! Also when we were around other family or friends he would nearly always end up with their keys.

I have just found out last night that nearly all brass door keys contain lead (around 2%), that children under the age of 6 absorb 70% of the lead they come into contact with and that even small levels of lead in the blood of infants can lead to all kinds of terrible problems such as brain damage etc.
I would say DS spent at least an hour a day in total with the keys in and out of his mouth for over a year. Also I usually wouldn't wash his hands after playing with them (because the keys were regularly cleaned by me) and he would then put his fingers in his mouth and eat food etc. He has also played regularly and occasionally mouthed my husbands old toy cars which I have found could also contain lead in the paint.

Symptoms of of lead poisoning in children can be loss of appetite (DS was a milk monster when he was a baby but he's always had a tiny appetite since we weaned him and is a fussy eater), trouble sleeping (he is a nightmare sleeper and still wakes most nights), growth delay (he is 2 and a half and still wears 12-18 month trousers).

I feel so sick, I've been awake most of the night thinking about it. Trying to get hold of the doctors for an appointment to get a blood test. Feeling so terrified. I often see other children with keys and apparently the locksmith that got the keys for our DS says he gets asked for blank keys regularly by parents for their children. Why aren't people made aware of the dangers? Apparently most children with lead poisoning have zero symptoms but the most horrific damage is caused to the brain, kidneys, nervous system, reproductive system and lots more. I read one article that said a baby who regularly puts keys in their mouth would have similar levels of lead in their blood to an adult who has worked intensively with lead throughout their life. All the info I could get online was American where they seem to be having awareness campaigns but nothing from the uk about the dangers with children & lead keys.
What makes it even worse is that although all our other keys are nickel plated which reduces the lead exposure, the keys my DS was given for his own are plain brass so they offer zero protection from the lead!
I just feel so sick, guilty, the worst mum ever.

OP posts:
Spartans · 27/07/2015 13:06

I have a big gap in my kids. When ds was a baby, dd slept great. One of them not sleeping at a time was enough to send me over the edge.

2 small children not sleeping would have floored me. We all have panics, don't worry about it.

Fwiw, I don't Google health stuff....I always happen to find the horror stories and worst case scenarios

Spartans · 27/07/2015 13:07

Oh and glad the Dr put your mind at rest

EponasWildDaughter · 27/07/2015 13:27

OP - don't worry at all. Your post didn't sound manic, just worried. We've all been there! It's our job to worry about hour children and the anxiety makes us seek help if we think there's something wrong.

A good few years ago my good friend rang me in a serious and absolute panic and in floods of tears saying she had just discovered her DS (about 2 and a half) had sat and drunk an entire bottle of Calpol. (lid not on properly.)

She was rushing to A&E and thought that
a) he'd have to have his stomach pumped at the very least, and
b) social services would come and take him away.

I paniced with her and asked her to ring me again as soon as she could.

She rang back a couple of hours later (couldn't use mobiles in hospital then) - totally calm and matter of fact. Doctor had said the boy would be fine. Obviously not an advisable thing, but not to worry. Told her he too had trouble with child proof lids. He'd checked DS over twice and sent them home.

I've never forgotten that and think of it whenever i break out the Calpol for DD4 and find myself stressing over measuring out 5ml exactly Grin

DeeWe · 27/07/2015 15:47

My parents had a key to their porch which was brass. It also tasted delicious and I loved sucking it. Grin

TattyDevine · 27/07/2015 15:50

Glad you are feeling better OP!

Its really hard to break your baby, trust me, or I would have broken one of mine by now I'm sure Grin

seaoflove · 27/07/2015 15:50

children under the age of 6 absorb 70% of the lead they come into contact with and that even small levels of lead in the blood of infants can lead to all kinds of terrible problems such as brain damage etc

Where did you read this? Because, honestly, it sounds like complete nonsense to me.

You're finding correlations with his appetite, sleep and growth but I promise you, it's not related.

LittleLionMansMummy · 27/07/2015 15:58

Didn't kids used to cheerfully play with led soldiers in the olden days? I think they probably also painted cots with a led based paint too. Honestly op, my parents turned out fine!!

ThisisMrsNicolaHicklin · 27/07/2015 17:05

So glad everything is ok. Its a stereotype because we all do it. I could fill the whole of MN with the things I've been worried about my wee people's health - volume and
frequency of farting, tongue ties,
veins appearing, snotters, excema,
sleeping too much/eating too much/
too little and on and on and not
forgetting the terrible day DS ate all
the suncream.
Its pretty normal but if it is getting too much (and that's really common too) ask for help, here or in RL. There's loads of good advice out there.

WaggleBee · 27/07/2015 17:13

Excellent post Nitty

TheLastPickleInTheJar · 27/07/2015 17:22

I'm glad the Dr reassured you, op. I suffer with anxiety and i often use the internet to fuel my fears. Drives dh crazy. Anxiety is a terrible thing and it often increases tenfold when we have children.

Andorover · 27/07/2015 17:56

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FelicityBennett · 27/07/2015 19:26

Why don't you ask the locksmith what the keys are made of? He may be able to reassure you

AliceInSandwichLand · 27/07/2015 20:19

In the past, at various times, paint contained high levels of lead, women used lead oxide thick white powder as makeup, children played with lead toy soldiers and farm animals (I had some in the 1970s, even, old ones!), people drank from pewter with lead in it, petrol had lead in it, and water pipes were made of lead. The levels of food adulteration with lead in Victorian times were extraordinary. I am not saying it was harmless, but people survived, had children, invented things, wrote books, etc in spite of levels of exposure to lead that would be unimaginable and impossible today. Don't worry. I'm glad the doctor reassured you and I am sure your son will be fine. As others said, I bet there is no lead in modern keys anyway!

RagstheInvincible · 27/07/2015 22:19

If you are talking about the study I think you are, it looked at locksmiths in the USA who: (a) handled keys on a daily basis over a period of years and (b) cut and filed keys and so could absorb small particles and even metallic dust. I don't think you have anything to worry about.

SundayBea · 28/07/2015 08:19

Thanks for all the brilliant replies and suggestions. I can see now that US studies are not always relevant over here. I will try and find out about the keys from the locksmith to put my mind at rest. Thank you for the book suggestion I have looked it up on Amazon and definitely think I will read it ????

OP posts:
Rinkidink · 17/09/2017 16:51

Hello SundayBea I found your post today as I was worrying about similar issues in relation to DC.

How is your DS now?

FenceSitter01 · 17/09/2017 16:58

This thread is 2.5 years old . You would have had a 'zombie thread warning.

Charolais · 17/09/2017 17:27

Lead was banned from petrol in the U.S. years before it was banned in the U.K.

SusieOwl4 · 17/09/2017 17:31

We had a whole Noah's ark of lead animals when I was small and the paint had worn off . We were fine . But it is scary when you look back .

Miserylovescompany2 · 17/09/2017 17:36

Well, GP wasn't concerned - no bloods were initially taken? 2.5 years later who knows?

What makes you concerned Rinkidink?

Rinkidink · 17/09/2017 17:37

Thanks Fence I realised it was old...I just wondered if Sunday was still on MN and if she would give us an update on how her DS was some 2 years on (as any effects of lead poisoning would be now be seen, if indeed there was any poisoning...so if her DS was fine then there was probably no poisoning!)

Carriecakes80 · 17/09/2017 17:52

My daughter has never chewed keys, however, she used to love her milk until she was weaned, now eats like a bird, she is now 4 in 18-24 month clothing, and she hates sleeping, mainly because she thinks she's missing out on something!

Please don't worry! Your boy sounds 100% normal to me! As for being a bad mum, a Bad mum wouldn't give two hoots if their kids might be poorly, you sound like an anxious Mum though, stop reading Google, get him to the Docs to have a check up to put your mind at ease, and then relax and enjoy your babe! xxxxxxxxx

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