to be fucking RAGING

[CherryBonBon]

that I and other women have to put up with this shit.

Was out in town tonight. Walking to my bus stop and was about to pass a group of drunk lairy lads when one of them started walking quickly towards me with his arms out.

I turned my body away from him and tried to keep walking but he side stepped and put his arms around me. I shoved him as hard as I could off me and told him to get the fuck off me.

I walked away to a barrage of laughter and being called a 'stuck up cunt'.

Why do some men think this is acceptable behaviour? It's so fucking depressing.

You are tedious

That's rich coming from the person who started with the tedious generalisation and prejudice.

OP there might be a chance that this is on CCTV - report it to the police and see if they can give those tossers a dose of reality.

Retro just read a post from you in another thread warning that boys can catch the gay especially in Scotland and you now know a lad who is a transvestite after his mother out him in a girls blazer!

Make up your mind dear are Northern men groping sex pests or transvestites?

Wierd views you hold.

I live in Lancashire and don't ever recall being accosted in the street by drunken louts.

wierd agree there.

Recently there was a feature that showed the problem page from Jackie mag circa 1978 where advice about a friends father groping the girl was to freeze him with a state and walk away

My dds would kick him in the bollicks and tell me. I would call the police.

Times have changed.

pehaps Retro you could draw us a map of Britain to show us areas of perversions and where sex pests the gay virus, transvestites and gropers abound? It would be fascinating.

Is Watford the cut off point for decent men?

How about those lusty devon and Cornwall farmers? You need to watch them surely?

This is so annoying. I always favoured the "scream at them to leave you the fuck alone" approach.

But it only works if you are in a fairly crowded place and you can embarrass the drunken toddlers.

Don't think it would have helped in the ops situation.

Toddlers = tossers ????

Men not from the right background wtf? Sexual assault occurs at every 'level' of society. Harrassment with the intent to intimidate (every heckle every grope every leer from a car window) is all it is. It is never a come on nor a compliment and never has been. If someone were genuinely interested or attracted to a person they wouldn't throw their effort on victimising.

This stuff happens all the time, wherever you are. I had it on a train on Saturday night, i was alone and there were four of them, empty carriage.

Oddly, once I had declined the repeated offers of alcohol, we actually had quite a nice and polite chat about sports and aspirations of young people, and there were no offensive comments or attempts to touch me, but I hadn't really wanted to engage with them and would have preferred to Mumsnet on my phone. I went along with it for fear of rude comments or eyerolls.

They seemed like very nice men, but in that situation they approached a lone woman, sat down around her in a deserted carriage and offered her alcohol. It's intimidating.

Dd1 has an excellent way of deterring perverts by shouting at the top of her voice pervert alert and describing what they are wearing.

I am a forty something year old woman and still get drunken idiots coming over. It was a big shock the first few times as this had only happened once or twice in Ireland. I worked as a waitress in a nice hotel for a couple of years and the majority of men were generally fine until they had a few drinks and then a high number seemed to think wait staff were there for groping. Yes some women thought the same but it was five times more men than women,from all sorts of backgrounds. One that sticks in my head was a young woman from Moldova that had a company director shove his hand up her skirt in front of the entire room. The whole place laughed.

Live in Croydon, I'd say the White yardy wannabes are the worst offenders, they already start with a chip on their shoulder! But sarcasm aside it's definitely not a bloody northern/southern thing, it's a man thing.

Also Harriet I agree women do it too and are just as bad (fucking hen dos...) BUT I really don't think the fear a man feels is anything to that a woman feels. In some areas near me you just don't go out at night alone in if you are a woman for fear of this shit. Men don't have to worry about a group of women assaulting him if he is walking in a residential area on a Tuesday at night, but women have to worry about groups of men because they are more prevalent.

South East here, got groped walking home when I was a teenager.
Decked the twat.

Fay .

In seriousness though, my current DP had no idea how bad unwanted attention can be for a lone female.
I told him that I can't think of a single friend of mine that hasn't been sexually assaulted. He was absolutely horrified!

If anything, it seems to be older, white men in positions of 'power' that seem to think they can do what they want are above the law when it comes to harassing women and children.

I like the idea of shouting out and embarrassing them, but suspect my throat would constrict and I'd manage a pathetic squeak.

It's all very well engaging with groups of lads and bantering on a train, it's when you're in an unpopulated place and the banter has a scary edge to it it gets truly scary.

For all the people who moan about civil liberties etc, I for one am very grateful for our cctv culture. As pp said, playing it back and asking themto explain themselves is the way to go.

I bet you also believe that grooming of young teenage girls is equally prevalent among all groups in society! Problems only get solved with targeted treatment.

What the hell do you mean by that, Retro? ^

Dd had a problem with unwanted verbal attention (shouting across the bar and lewd comments) a few weeks ago. She was out seeing a few of her friends who were back from uni and she wasn't drunk. It's horrible dealing with this crap... where ever you happen to live.

and^ are above the law

I know Shocker.

Trent neither do I.

Seffina I don't think thats true,it seems to be a fairly common thing regardless of the colour of a mans skin.

Drunk people are annoying when you aren't drunk.

Angle your right shoulder towards twat, hook right lag behind his legs and push hard. Add Bruce Lee sound effects if you feel like frightening him. DS 1&2 let me practice on them, it works????

I don't understand why men think it's acctable. I had it happen last week, drunk man outside a chip shop started walking alongside me and putting on 'joke glasses' and trying to talk to me. I made some quick comment and kept going but he kept walking alongside me and tried to put his arm around me. I side stepped out of it and told him not to touch me. He said 'but you're just my size'. WTF? I just said he was rude and insulting. He looked amazed and backed off. He was surprised that someone objected.

I didn't feel threatened just really pissed off that it was "acceptable" to walk up to a random woman and touch her. It was nothing compared to a lot of these stories but I just want to be able to walk down a street without having to do this. I went home and asked DH why men thought it was acceptable and he was surprised that this happens.

Some men. I can absolutely guarantee that neither my dh or my dss would dream if doing this.

Not Surprising really as we live in the midlands.

Can you imagine if I had raised northern men or worse Scottish!