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To get so moved over unidentified bodies?

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TheHouseOnBellSt · 22/07/2015 22:53

I recently had cause to check a website which lists unidentified bodies found in the UK. It was for a work project...I don't work for the police though and so I was shocked by it all.

I was especially touched by one woman whose body was found last year...almost a year ago anyway...she was found at the bottom of Beachy Head....it says she jumped.

She's aged 30-40 and nobody has identified her. I must be getting morbid in my old age but I keep checking to see if anyone has identified her and nobody has. :(

I know it's unhealthy for me to think too much about things like this but I so wish I could name her. There are so many others of course but maybe this one touched me because she's similar in age to me. There are sensitive photos of her and though they upset me (they're not gory just sad) I keep looking at her and googling missing people to try to find who she could be.

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Gileswithachainsaw · 23/07/2015 13:03

I wonder if some are cult members.

would explain the compete lack of anything that could identify them. The lack of contact with anyone etc

larant · 23/07/2015 13:33

More well known unidentified people.

listverse.com/2013/06/14/10-mysterious-cases-involving-unidentified-people/

DoeEyedNear · 23/07/2015 14:02

I was looking for that list earlier Larant Grin

gabsdot45 · 23/07/2015 14:43

There is a great documentary called dreams of a life. It's about a woman who died in her London flat and wasn't found for 3 years and no one missed her. It's very interesting but so sad.

Bambooshoots14 · 23/07/2015 15:15
Sad
TheHouseOnBellSt · 23/07/2015 15:29

gab yes someone mentioned it upthread. The woman was Joyce Vincent.

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Aramynta · 23/07/2015 16:25

Whenever I hear about little ones being found I always think of all the children who are missing and whether or not it could be them.

As someone said upthread, all of them were somebody's baby. It makes me cry :'(

AnyoneForTennis · 23/07/2015 16:45

I find the adult ones the most upsetting.... A whole life lived and they have nobody

So sad

AttitcusFinchIsMyFather · 23/07/2015 16:51

Blueadwhite, yes I followed Caylee's case, and watched the trial live via the net. The verdict astounded me! There is a similar case going to trial soon, a small boy called Colton Brandt.

Alisvolatpropiis · 23/07/2015 16:56

One which is playing on my mind is the baby boy found in the river Taff near to where I live, last month.

He was only a few days old, would have been born around when my own baby was born. Which is probably why it plays on my mind so much. The mother has still not come forward and probably never will.

Gileswithachainsaw · 23/07/2015 17:08

alis

are you in the UK?

I saw on TV that America have safe haven laws for babies. numbers they can call where people can give their babies up in secret . or dropping them off at fire stations.

does anyone know if that's true? or if England follows suit.

If only people knew there was somewhere they could go, have their anonymity preserved and know their child would he safe.

what hell must people go through to give both alone, have a baby die and then panic and dump them.in a river somewhere Sad

Pepperonipeteczar · 23/07/2015 18:23

Very upsetting thread. The poor children Sad

bumbleymummy · 23/07/2015 18:31

Giles, they have baby safe boxes in Europe where babies can be dropped off anonymously. They're monitored by nurses iirc so the babies are at least safe and warm. Unfortunately they don't offer much help for the women who have given birth (perhaps only hours before) and feel that they can't cope.

Gileswithachainsaw · 23/07/2015 18:44

That's good but bad at the same time.

The mums could be in need of serious medical help. can't help but wonder how many have succumbed and are among the statistics of unidentified people.
Sad

kimlo · 23/07/2015 19:13

Ive followed the grateful doe case for a long time. With jason he had a history of being a free spirit and moving on as and when he fancied then coming back. as far as i know his mother doesnt have mental health problems, when she first came forward she said she had been waiting for him to get in touch the whole time.

It was a diffrent time then, no facebook no mobiles, his family just thought he was off doing his own thing and would come back eventually. The really sad thing is he wasnt going to the next grateful dead show even though he had a ticket, and judging from where they were when they crashed he was probably on his way home.

OnIlkelyMoorBahtat · 23/07/2015 19:31

God it is so sad isn't it; so many people slip through the cracks. Does anyone remember that drama "Responsible Adult" with Dominic West and Emily Watson about Fred and Rose West? I remember the writer saying that one of the most painful things she found about the whole thing while researching it was discovering that many of the poor women whose bodies were found in the Wests' house had never even been reported missing; they'd had no one in their lives who cared where they were.

Queenbean · 23/07/2015 19:38

Heartbreaking, I now feel really overly invested in the lives of all these people

How lovely of you OP to care for people like this

OutVileJelly · 23/07/2015 20:01

I've been on the missing people website before- it was when the Met released the sketches of people who had died on the Tube and were still unidentified.

I just can't imagine it. To an extent, I see how a very old person, all their friends and family dead or far away, living in an area which has changed drastically...I can see how sometimes they die, 'slip through the cracks', and aren't found for a few weeks.

But young people...children, teenagers, adults in their prime...I can't get my head around it. I live in a close knit community, where everybody knows everybody else, so in a way I suppose I am cushioned by that. But am I really? Some of these people must have come from small areas,had extended families and close friends- at least at some point in their lives. As children, they must have gone to tea at friend's houses, moaned about homework. Somebody taught them to drive, or to ride a bike, or to make pancakes.

Yet they still lie for years, no name, nothing.

It's fucking spooky

Rollermum · 23/07/2015 20:11

Oh my goodness these are such sad and upsetting stories. I will be thinking about that Baby Hope one for a long time. Everyone is someone's baby and with the lonely old people that is sad to think their life played out and they didn't have anyone at the end. But I find it even sadder that the young children were probably not beloved babies and were treated so badly and then never claimed.

DoeEyedNear · 23/07/2015 20:12

Baby hope reclaimed her name recently and her uncle was convicted of her murder I thought

DoeEyedNear · 23/07/2015 20:13

Baby Hope's name is Angelica

NoahVale · 23/07/2015 20:20

the Beachy Head woman does look at peace RIP Sad
I remember being very upset about the Kings Cross Fire unknown person, and so glad that he was traced

Rollermum · 23/07/2015 20:32

Thanks for the link DoeEyedNear. Good to know she was identified and her murderer caught (her cousin). What a grim horrible murder. I will be thinking of her, Anjelica Castillo.

ProvisionallyAnxious · 23/07/2015 20:33

This is a long read but very well written and very moving - about the (successful) attempt by journalists to identify an unindentified body found on the shores of Norway. It turned out to be the body of a boy attempting to swim from Calais to England.

www.dagbladet.no/spesial/vatdraktmysteriet/eng/

I guess if illegal immigrants die en route or indeed in there destination country and there is no record of them then their is no way to match them with descriptions of people missing from different countries if that makes sense. Sad

DoeEyedNear · 23/07/2015 21:25

Oh that article is enthralling and heart breaking at the same time.

Something clearly needs to be done at Calais

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