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Original poster

to think its ridiculous there's no out of hours dentists past 9pm

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WombatStewForTea · 15/07/2015 01:39

I've had excruciating tooth ache for 24 hours now. Managed to get an emergency appointment with my own dentist today who treated me. The local anaesthetic has worn off and the pain is back just as severe as before. I can't get through to even make an emergency appointment anywhere til 8am. I'm not sure I can last that long. NHS 111 confirmed nowhere open and just to take painkillers. :(

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butterfly133 · 15/07/2015 21:35

Wombat, I hope you feel better soon. When did they say you feel better? And did they give you decent painkillers? It doesn't sound as if they gave you enough info yesterday or today.

Mrsmorton · 15/07/2015 21:38

Dry socket is usually a delayed complication, arises after about 3-5 days. Still, hope it's feeling better.

If you had an open wound on your arm, would you be careful with the scab? The clot is exactly the same only more fragile.
Do you smoke?

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WombatStewForTea · 16/07/2015 08:23

Off on holiday on Monday and the second dentist seemed to think I'd be okay by then. Still in loads of pain but did manage to sleep for an hour or so last night so it must be getting better. Dentist didn't give me any painkillers just said ibuprofen/paracetamol which aren't even touching the pain. Off to the gp later to see if I can get something on prescription.
I know what you mean about the clot mrsmorton but the dentist didn't mention it at all just put in some gauze in and said to bite down for 10 mins nothing at all about being careful with it. And no not a smoker btw.

Winter - I'm not complaining just suggesting that a handful of places across the county might work.

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shirleybasseyslovechild · 16/07/2015 10:21

hmm not sure about diagnosis of dry socket , that does not come on immediately.

is it completely relieved by cold? that suggests something else too.

in Glasgow we have an excellent out of hours service, a clinic 7-10 pm every weekday night and daytime clinics at the weekend and all holidays.

hope you get better soon

Groovee · 16/07/2015 11:52

I had 3 weeks of issues in February with a socket from removal. Turned out a fragment of bone had been left behind. 20 minutes after removal healing started and no issues since but it took numerous visits to get it sorted.

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WombatStewForTea · 16/07/2015 12:15

Two different dentists have said dry socket. Been back today and had another dressing put in as last one fell out. She also poked around to try and stimulate some bleeding. It is utterly depressing to think that this could go on for weeks! She couldn't say when it's likely to become bareable

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TeaAndBisquits · 16/07/2015 15:06

Unfortunately dry sockets are terribly painful and once you have one, the site takes much longer to heal and for the pain to get better.
I'd make sure I have some salt readily available when you go away on Monday and carry on with hot salt water mouth rinses for the while time you're away. (We're you told to start these 24 hours after extraction?)
Sounds like you weren't given any post operative instructions to follow which is very bad form on the Dental team you were treated by. We advise that the socket can be painful, of lesser degrees, for up to one month after the procedure.
I hope it starts to ease off soon though.

TeaAndBisquits · 16/07/2015 15:07

Please excuse all the typos!

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WombatStewForTea · 16/07/2015 18:10

I'm honestly not sure I'll make it on holiday unless there's a drastic improvement.
The dressing was magical while it lasted but after a couple of hours it disintegrated and back to normal. I did notice pain coming from the adjacent tooth which has had a root canal and one above which has an onlay and has been a nightmare since it was fitted so I do wonder if there's something else going on but was brushed off by the dentist who I'm pretty sure is sick of me and thinks I just need to suck it up. I'm on max strength ibuprofen and 30mg cocodamol which aren't even touching the pain so I don't know what else I can do!

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WombatStewForTea · 16/07/2015 18:11

Tea - I was told not to salt rinse for 24 hours

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butterfly133 · 16/07/2015 18:25

Wombat, I think I remember being told not to rinse for 24 hours so a clot could form or some such?

I am sorry you are having this experience. Your dentist really doesn't sound great. It might be the case that you need to let it settle in order to be sure about where the source of the pain is.

I understand if you don't want to go on holiday with it, my sympathies.

Mrsmorton · 16/07/2015 18:37

Not rinsing for 24 hours is standard advice, what else were you told to do/not to do?

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WombatStewForTea · 16/07/2015 19:14

I don't deny that Mrsmorton I was answering someone else's question. When she'd removed the tooth she placed gauze in my mouth and told me to bite down hard for ten minutes and handed a piece of paper that said to not start salt rinses, not to smoke (not a smoker anyway) and to expect mild discomfort when the local anaesthetic wares off (ha!)

I think I'm annoyed because she admitted she wasn't 100% which tooth it was and because I was in pain I didn't question her I just let her do it.

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butterfly133 · 16/07/2015 19:34

she wasn't 100% sure which tooth? I accept it can be complicated but whipping it out right away seems an odd solution when she wasn't sure.

Do you mind if I ask, is this a private dentist making money every time you visit?

what is the plan for replacing the tooth?

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WombatStewForTea · 16/07/2015 19:41

Yup root canal or other such thing wasn't given as an option. Its only now that I'm kicking myself for not asking. The reason for assuming it was this tooth was because it had quite a deep temporary filling and the tooth next to it had already had a satisfactory looking root canal.

and no this is NHS dentist! No plan for replacing the tooth its my back molar so not visible.

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Mrsmorton · 16/07/2015 20:14

No need to be defensive. I was simply reinforcing that as good advice. The rest of the advice you received was adequate. I'll leave you to it, hope you get to the bottom of it soon.

TeaAndBisquits · 16/07/2015 20:27

Unfortunately there are some NHS dentists who won't offer the root canal treatment as an alternative to extraction as the cost of an RCT is substantially higher, not to mention takes much longer to perform. I wonder if this was the case with your tooth?

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WombatStewForTea · 16/07/2015 21:27

Sorry if I offended mrsmorton, I'm sleep deprived and emotional!

That's interesting teaandbisquits!

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fourtothedozen · 16/07/2015 21:43

OP the tooth that was extracted had a temporary filling? How long has that been there?

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WombatStewForTea · 16/07/2015 21:51

It had been there about 4-6 months as I changed to this dentist and then had a whole rigmarole of being sent for allergy tests before new dentist would treat me.

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Itsbloodyraining · 16/07/2015 22:13

I had dry socket and the pain was worse than labour. I had to get it packed every few days and it felt fine then. still took painkillers etc., and the whole thing was over in about 14 days. I did go to ooh dentist and he just said infection and gave me antibiotics. Waste of time. When my own dentist saw it for the first time she kept saying how much agony I must have been in. I'll never forget it.

BollocksBudget · 16/07/2015 22:50

I've had dry socket twice and I can honestly say that I'd rather give birth to ten babies one after the other than experience a dry socket again.

I had the hole packed every other day for 10 days and the only thing that got me through was tramadol as it made me sleep.

Hang in there OP, it's bloody awful but it should start to subside soon.

GlitterNails · 16/07/2015 23:20

Did you get to see your GP? Hope you got given something stronger. Co-dydramol is the strongest over the counter medication in the meantime, and I always found it better on my stomach that co codamol.

I feel for you - toothache is the worst, and I've heard how awful dry socket is. Anyone would be struggling right now after two days of limited sleep and with inadequate pain relief.

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WombatStewForTea · 17/07/2015 00:08

Thanks guys. My gp said they're not really allowed to treat dental issues even with pain killers but he gave me some stronger cocodamol. The dentist wouldn't give me anything

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WanderWomble · 17/07/2015 00:17

Your dentist sounds shit. Can you get in somewhere else and get checked over?

Toothache is the pits. Hope you're feeling better!

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