to think cars are crap, expensive and rubbish?

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Mine is about 6 years old. It cost liads to buy. I'll be paying for it for another 3 years.

It needs 2 new tyres, wiper blades, MOT, service and something drastic is broken and needs fixing. Not to mention the billioms of litres of bloody petrol, costing ££££££, all the sodding time.

IABU to think a fairly new-ish car shouldn't need to cost hundreds of bloody pounds, that I don't have, every bloody year, just to keep it going?

Surely something that bloody expensive shouldn't break and need constant coaxing along just to keep going?

Badly designed and crap.

YANBU, they are bad for the environment, too.

And yet, I can't not have a car. Shit publuc transport and crap working hours. And shopping. And taxiing other people around.

YANBU, my 12 year old car needs the same doing to it as yours does, however I bought mine for £300 and so at least don't have the outlay of paying off any finance on it.

I'd never buy a new or nearly new car, its just not worth it.

What make is it?

Yep, they're a bit shit

Still love mine - the freedoms amazing (and selfish)

It's a mini. I like it but it's ever so needy.

Get a skoda...best car ever

That's the trouble with Minis - they look fun but are notorious for problems.

Want a reliable, economical car? Buy Japanese.

Yy get a skoda.

I've had four and they've never really cost me any money apart from the one I wrote off

touches wood

In the future look at leasing. Almost all of the costs you mention are covered. Not petrol, sorry.

Yanbu. I'm considering learning to drive just so I can - but can't see me buying a car any time soon. Decent public transport though, so it feels redundant.

It needs 2 new tyres, wiper blades, MOT, service

Hardly 'coaxing' it along!

Asian cars are very good.

I agree with Maid, it sounds standard to me and not 'crap'. I mean, yes cars are expensive, as is the price of petrol, but nothing you mentioned is out of the ordinary.

Is it cheaper to buy a really crap car and just swap it for another really crap one when it breaks?

I think it is excessive.

Google bangernomics. A website dedicated to buying crap cars cheap and running into the ground.

I think it might be the way forward.

The tyres and wipers are wear and tear though - the heavier your driving ) and the more it rains!) the sooner these bits need replacing.

I have a Mini, which I love - about 1.5 years old. Had one issue - clutch went within first few months but it was repaired/changed under warranty as it was faulty. Nothing else yet. However, it will be going within the next year. We rarely keep cars long - once they start needing MOTs, etc in my experience they start developing issues and costing extra money. Also, I need to get an automatic (arthritis is getting worse so important to change) so need to change anyway.

But should 'normal wear and tear' cost hundreds of bloody pounds?

I think it's high time a long lasting cheap tyre should be invented.

Hardly sounds excessive to me but yes MINIs are notorious for being a bit shit.

And the key with Mini is to not get the dealership to repair it! Find another reputable place.

For example

Someone has driven into the side of my Mini causing a pretty hefty dint and scratching the side panels and wheel arch. Whoever did it drove off and didn't admit to it. Mini wanted £2500 to repair it. A reputable garage we have used before will do it for £400!!!

Shop around.