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To ask those on Cambridge/Slimming world etc diets their weight loss?

68 replies

Ghostlife · 04/07/2015 15:22

Looking to find out week 1 loses and then average loss after that.

I am done with long term diets for now.

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Mrsmorton · 04/07/2015 17:51

Is SW expensive?

FriteFuaite · 04/07/2015 17:57

4.5 stone in almost a year on a Sw, so just over a pound a week. I don't feel like it's a hardship to follow, just making sensible choices. I find it expensive, tho, all the fresh fruit and veg.

TattyDevine · 04/07/2015 18:38

Cambridge/Lighterlife

A lot of people will lose a good chunk in their first week, mainly as the sole source program (stage one) is ketogenic so you use your glycogen stores up (this is ready energy stored in your liver/muscles) and your body switches over to burning fat as its primary source of energy. Glycogen is suspended in 4 times its weight in water thus a pleasing weight loss in the first week. You do of course lose fat too. You can then expect 3-4 pounds a week on sole source after that. It can mean average weight losses of at least a stone a month, which is why it is appealing to people with a lot to lose - it can be rather daunting if you want to shift 6 or 8 stone for instance and once you decide to make that lifestyle choice you want to reap the rewards as quickly as possible.

If you do a diet like this properly, your consultant will want to guide you through the entire program, through the levels. Cambridge you start on sole source but then you go to stage 2 (add a meal - green and white, so chicken or fish and some green veg) then you move over to a calorie controlled breakfast, green and white and your 2 cambridge products, and so on so forth until you are eating entirely "real" food.

If you don't do this thing where you go through the stages it can be easy for the weight to creep back on but there is absolutely no reason why it should if you do the stabilisation process and establish what your lifetime eating pattern should be to maintain your weight loss. Many do not bother with this and then blame the diet when they whack a chunk back on.

That said, I know people who have taken a year or more to lose 6 stone on Slimming World and other healthy eating diet programmes only to put it all back on in half the time - once again, not the fault of the diet at all but the attitude that the diet is somehow over combined with burying one's head in the sand - something that can be a factor in how you got to be overweight in the first place - understandable.

People who do well on Cambridge often find it is a combination of the swift weight loss which really boosts your motivation to continue, the state of dietary ketosis, which really kills your appetite which many struggle with on more traditional healthy eating diets, so they are able to coast along without any major discomfort once the first week or 2 have been completed. Another factor of success for some is that there is little planning involved - no weighing, measuring, shopping or cooking, just your one stop shop that is your consultant's place of business, where you get weighed, buy your products and that's that. Many people come undone on traditional diets when they are feeling hunger and they pile their plates up just a little bit higher until they are sabotaging their own success. The temptation isnt there so much with Cambridge as you are likely to be less hungry once in the ketogenic state and it comes in a single sachet which makes it sort of easy to just prepare it, consume it, and move on with your day.

Cost is a factor to consider - a Cambridge diet product costs £2.10 for a shake, soup, porridge or risotto/rice pudding and £2.40 for a spag bol sachet or a bar.

If you got fat downing a £6 bottle of wine with your dinner most nights and live for your takeaway, or Starbucks coffee each morning etc you can actually find it "pays for itself" in the money you save from not continuing your bad habits. If you got fat by eating too much budget food or hoovering the kids leftovers or attacking the biscuit tin in the office there may not be that financial benefit and therefore the diet can seem quite expensive. Another factor to consider!

Hope that helps a bit with your decision.

LaurieFairyCake · 04/07/2015 18:41

It's £4.95 a week for the class

Yes, it's more expensive because there's no cheap foods - our bills gone up
by about 40 a week for veg and fruit (for 3 people - I'm not cooking separate meals)

It's all simple food - bolognaise, chilli, meats and eggs and a fuck ton of veg Grin

LaurieFairyCake · 04/07/2015 18:42

My post is about slimming world

Shannaratiger · 04/07/2015 18:46

SW

Week 1: 5lb
1lb
Maintain
3lb.

TattyDevine · 04/07/2015 18:47

Forgot to mention hair loss - this can occur if you follow Stage One for an extended period of time - usually 3 months or more. It can kick in in month 4 or 5. It is by no means total hair loss or anything scary like that - your body is essentially in starvation mode and shuts down the hair renewing phase but will still have its shedding phase. Once food is reintroduced, the renewal phase starts again very quickly. In many people it is noticable only when they are having a shower and they feel they are shedding a lot of hair but is not evident on their heads. Others find their hair is the finer type anyway and it is noticeable.

Following sole source plus, which is 4 meal sachets and a milk allowance is often enough for this not to happen at all - even that little bit of milk each day in your cup of tea stops it happening, even though you are still in ketosis. Following Stage 2 would stop it from happening. Many people do a quick start sole source for a few weeks and then move on to Stage 2, the weight loss which is virtually as quick, still very very effective - in which case they would not experience any hair loss.

It can be pretty daunting and therefore you should consider it as part of your decision making process in whether you will do the diet or how long you would follow sole source without the milk allowance if you chose to do so.

You can lose 3-4 pounds a week on Stage 2 (3 cambridge diet products and a green and white meal) and in fact that is Cambridge's most popular program these days.

Sallycinnamum · 04/07/2015 18:49

I've just started a vlcd. I have a stone to lose and tbhs, it's bloody hard work. I'm three days in and the dreaded ketosis flu has hit with a vengeance.

I did a lot of research before buying th products, which included speaking to my doctor who said the thinking on very low calorie diets has changed in th nhs over the last few years and is now recommended to some groups of people struggling with their weight.

However, I know my attitude to food has to change and once I've lost the stone I intend to switch to 5:2 to maintain it.

It's the wine and chocolate that has caused the weight gain and I recognise that my eating habits have to change.

HelenaDove · 04/07/2015 18:51

YY Laurie Totally agree Someone on JSA couldnt do it.

LaurieFairyCake · 04/07/2015 19:03

They so totally couldnt unless they lived next to a cheap greengrocer

We spend way more on simpler foods now than junk before

We had our first take away for two months last night (beef in black bean sauce - 8.5 syns for me) last night because it was a 'treat' and because our normal
food is more expensive

But good gravy the benefits ! My skin is clear as glass, my eyes are bright white, and genuinely I look really healthy

I'm sure that's because of the 7-10 portions of fruit and veg a day

MeltchettsLovelyMoustache · 04/07/2015 19:06

If you have even a sniff of an eating disorder don't touch the Cambridge Diet. I developed bulimia on it and I'm also 3 stone heavier than when I started it.

HelenaDove · 04/07/2015 19:11

Im sorry to hear that Meltchetts. Thanks

WorktoLive · 04/07/2015 19:48

I don't think SW is more expensive. It's just what I was eating anyway cooked with less fat but I generally buy seasonal veg including Aldi super 6 and hardly any fruit because I don't really eat it. And you save because you are only allowed a tiny amount of cheese, bread, alcohol and treaty junk.

MummyPig24 · 04/07/2015 20:19

Slimming world, first week I lost 7lb. Lost 1st 5lbs very quickly but have arsed about with this last half a stone, losing then gaining. Almost 2st gone now in 6 months. A woman who started just before me has lost double that though so I need to stop messing around and focus.

Ghostlife · 04/07/2015 20:34

Tatty thanks for the wonderfully detailed posts. I want to do a vlcd for about 6 weeks to hopefully lose about 1.5 stone then add a low carb meal to lose a further 1 stone. I would then move onto low carb 5:2 and then gradually add more foods. I have 2.5 stone to lose I will be walking for 20 minutes a day and doing Tracey Anderson to tone up.

Tatty - does the fast weight loss cause problems with face looking haggard or does the water help? I read somewhere it was good to do facial exercise to counteract this.

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Dogsmom · 04/07/2015 21:36

Tatty it's so good to read a helpful post about Cambridge, I get sick of the "if you lose it fast you'll regain it fast" and "once you start eating normally you'll put it all back on" comments which are totally false, yes you'll regain it if you go back to your old ways which is the same no matter which diet you do.

I've done sw, ww and Cambridge and any regains have been 100% my fault.

Regarding the original post on Cambridge lost 7lbs the first week and 52lbs in 12 weeks, I did the lowest plan and didn't cheat.
It can be a very antisocial diet so you need to prepare to either say no to meals out or when you go to the pub only drink water but it's such a small amount of time in the grand scheme of things and I wanted it over and done with in the shortest time possible.

Writing this has made my mind up about doing it again! I regained 2.5 stone during my pregnancy and have spent the last 7 weeks doing slimming world but am only 7.5lbs lighter whereas I'd have been over 2 stones lighter on Cambridge and almost at target.

Dogsmom · 04/07/2015 21:40

Regarding looking haggard I don't think it's diet specific, your face will look the same 3 stone lighter whichever way you do it but on a vlcd the result is much faster so more noticeable.

I remember staring at my size 10-12 self in the mirror for ages and not believing it was me as I'd been a size 18 only 12 weeks before, it took my brain a good few months to accept my new reflection.

frankie001 · 04/07/2015 22:32

I've started SW this week so haven't been back to get first (hopefully) loss. Seems ok so far, and will hopefully see results.

Ghostlife · 04/07/2015 22:39

Dogsmom that is amazing! weight loss! Do you mind me asking how much you lost in the first 3 weeks?

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spancake · 04/07/2015 22:44

I'm doing sns simplicity, week 1 - 12lb loss, week 2 - 10lb loss, week three - stayed the same and a bit pissed off about it. But 22lbs in 3 weeks is still pretty good I guess.

Worryingwombat · 04/07/2015 23:37

I follow Sw first loss was 5lb now averages out at 2lb per week

8months in and 6 stone 2lb lost Grin

Love the food and trying diffrent meal ideas! Lots of support on my thread on the Sw section on here!!

Mumsnet saved my life Smile and I aim to save mine now! Have turned my self around and going strong!! Still have another 6 stone to go!

But down from a size 32 to a size 20 bottom and 18 top!! Grin (Waiting for my ass to catch up now!)

Ghostlife · 04/07/2015 23:55

Wow spancake that is amazing! Do you mind me asking a few questions?

How much water you are drinking every day?

How much exercise are you doing daily?

How much have you got to lose?

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Methe · 05/07/2015 00:00

Dh does Cambridge periodically and he can easily lose 10lb in the first week. Most of its water but it make you feel better. I can lose 8lb in a week just by low carbing if I've been a glutton for a while previously but it's not actual fat loss iykwim.

Cambridge works fantastically for some people. Dh lost 4 stone over 5 or 6 months and kept most of it off. It is expensive though. I like my food too much to try it.

Rosieposy4 · 05/07/2015 00:08

Any suggestions for a vlcd that does mot involve "shakes"
I hate milk/milky tasting things with a vengeance, have been doing 5:2 but not seriously enough

thegreylady · 05/07/2015 00:13

My dh has lost just under 2 stones in 10 weeks on 5:2