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To think they should not have been allowed to do PE in this heat?

179 replies

Teacherinatutu · 30/06/2015 19:31

I am willing to accept IABU if you genuinely think I am.

It's very hot here today (around 33 degrees).

Ds came home tonight very hot and red. They did an hour long PE lesson in the afternoon heat. Shock He said they weren't allowed back in for a drink until the end of the lesson and they were on the field with no shade.

I don't think they should have been in the sunshine at all when it's at its hottest let alone doing P.E.
Plus, the school also has a rule where sun cream is banned and parents must apply the 8 hour protection before school which isn't as effective by 2.30pm.

AIBU?

OP posts:
Aeroflotgirl · 01/07/2015 08:56

Still whoise, they shoukd still be wearing a hat and have access to water. Op ds looked red and hot, so obviously doing something quite exerting.

Sparklingbrook · 01/07/2015 09:01

I don't think anyone has been hysterical.

Plus children tolerate heat differently just like adults. Some may be better than others running about in the heat. I think I have one who barely notices and another who wilts and feels nauseous sometimes.

We used to do a lot of Summer football tournaments and they were really hard going for footballers and spectators alike when the weather was like this.

WhirlpoolGalaxyM51 · 01/07/2015 09:30

But they didn't have suncream (or hats?) and no access to shade.

That's the whole point of the thread.

For the paler children, this will result in sunburn, there's no 2 ways about it. Why anyone thinks this is fine, and possibly even positive, is beyond me.

Although I have found that many people can be quite shocked at how easily others can burn, been really taken aback and surprised. When someone says "this will result in burn if I do it / my child does it" then why not listen to them? People know their own skin, don't they. Why would they lie about something so odd? And now another person saying it must be to do with fatness.

Maybe there is a stereotype of a pale, pasty, fat, unhealthy person that some posters have in their heads or something? And have an image of getting them out in the sun doing them some good? No though, healthy non fat people can also have pale skin, and giving them sunburn doesn't do them any good at all.

WhirlpoolGalaxyM51 · 01/07/2015 09:36

Oh coffee1234 thanks for the suggestion! I know the stuff you mean, cricketers wear it don't they. I've not even seen people with it on in the UK or spotted it in shops but I haven't really been looking! Going to check amazon. No way will the kids be allowed to wear it for school but for out of school (and for me gardening!) it sounds like a plan! Thank you :)

AuntieStella · 01/07/2015 09:39

Just spotted (from the thread in 'weather', thanks to GloriaSmud) that all of England is on a Met Office Amber warning for heatwave until tomorrow:

"Amber — Heatwave action

Triggered when the Met Office confirms threshold temperatures for one of more regions have been reached for one day and the following night, and the forecast for the next day has a greater than 90% confidence level that the day threshold temperature will be met. This stage requires social and healthcare services to target specific actions at high-risk groups.

Advice: Stay out of the sun. Keep your home as cool as possible – shading windows and shutting them during the day may help. Open them when it is cooler at night. Keep drinking fluids. If there's anybody you know, for example an older person living on their own, who might be at special risk, make sure they know what to do.

Advice on how to reduce the risk either for yourself or somebody you know can be obtained from NHS Choices at www.nhs.uk/summerhealth NHS 111 or from your local chemist."

WhirlpoolGalaxyM51 · 01/07/2015 09:40

Hmm they don't have it in boots that I can see or my online supermarket thingy. Anyone know any good brands so I can look on amazon?

BathshebaDarkstone · 01/07/2015 09:59

My DC had a 4 hour sports day on Monday, well it was actually 9.20: go to the park; 10: events; 11.45: picnic lunch; 1: back to school or home with parents/ carers. We had to provide hats, sun cream and plenty of water. All the classes' bases were under the trees. DD's class usually have PE on a Thursday, I don't know if they're doing it this week.

WhereTheFuckIsMyFuckingCoat · 01/07/2015 10:16

Not rtft, but I live in Australia - spring to autumn temps range from a cloudy 28 to a burning hot sunny 45. Regardless of what point in that range they are at, children apply factor 30 before school, and carry it with them. They aren't allowed to play in the unshaded areas without reapplying (themselves), and wearing hats at all times. Preschools do the reapplying (ds3 have a song for applying it) Children at school have their water bottles with them at all times, particularly during outdoor lessons, or are encouraged to drink from the bubblers. Schools/preschools will be given consequences if any children are burned due to not following these rules. This hasn't always been the case, mind you, which is why melanoma is the most common cancer in Australia. Eight hour creams are laughed at here, as they are useless.

I don't think anyone is saying that children shouldn't be running around outside to stop them becoming "fat little fuckers" Hmm, just that sensible precautions should be taken.

brickinit · 01/07/2015 10:41

This reminds me of our summer hols in Europe. The reddest, sweaty tourist are generally British as they don't know how to behave in hot weather.

They see it as a badge of honor to be able to sit or exercise at the hottest part of the day. Because - 'a bit of sun won't kill you!'
Look at me! How tough am I getting burnt and dehydrated in the sun. Hmm

LovelyFriend · 01/07/2015 11:13

in NZ schools have a "no hat no play" policy.

tomatodizzymum · 01/07/2015 11:17

Tomato in Oz, unless it's cracking the pavement, DC are expected to go out. but most of the Aussie's on here are agreeing with me. We all (Aus and Brazil) keep our kids under the shade, hydrated and sun-creamed. This was not done with the OPs son.

tomatodizzymum · 01/07/2015 11:26

Australia skin cancer rates as 5.8 and UK as 2.7 both in the red. Brazil is 1.3 so I'll stick with Brazilian methods I think Wink

JassyRadlett · 01/07/2015 11:50

Australia skin cancer rates as 5.8 and UK as 2.7 both in the red. Brazil is 1.3 so I'll stick with Brazilian methods I think

Good plan :)

And British skin cancer rates have exploded in the last 4 decades. In Australia they're levelling off and even started to drop in under-50s.

I think Australian survival rates may also be better due to early detection.

No excuse for Britain - there's a functioning ozone layer here and everything.

Signlake · 01/07/2015 12:12

Class should have been inside the sports hall with access to water whilst it's so hot. YANBU OP. I'd have made a complaint if this happened with my LO and wanted reassuring it wouldn't happen again

I remember back when I was at primary school, Sports Day lasted from 12:30 to 3:30 and the entire time all classes were sat outside on the field in the sun. We weren't allowed water bottles but about half way through every child was given a small plastic cup filled half way with squash which quite simply wasn't enough. It was hellish. God only knows why parents didn't complain

TheOddity · 01/07/2015 12:19

The English don't have a clue how to deal with extreme heat and cold. I live in a hot country and they have shaded playgrounds, the classrooms are kept dark and cool, they are given lots of water and uniform is reflective of the weather. I would be very upset if my DS had been expected to do sport at the peak of the day's heat. That is considered siesta time here and many would be going home or just coming back from the sleepy afternoon period until temperatures reduce a little. Also schools have already broken up here, in part because it is hot and you can regulate your temperature better at home where you can strip off, sleep etc.

Lizsmum · 01/07/2015 14:59

My DGD's school sent all the children home today at 10.30 because it was 'too hot'. Could this be just a tad OTT? Hmm

WinterOfOurDiscountTents15 · 01/07/2015 15:11

They sent them home? How is that even possible (seriously, parents are at work etc)? Thats pathetic. It's hotter than normal, people need to seriously get over it and get on with life.

ppolly · 01/07/2015 15:27

different children and adults react differently to the heat. my dd was out in the sun with a cap on drinking water at lunchtime yesterday and even then got a headache and was up feeling hot and very sick all night. Others were running around playing football no hats and no problems at all.

googoodolly · 01/07/2015 15:38

They sent them home?! Hmm

How did that go down with working parents?

SophieJenkins · 01/07/2015 16:07

I wish we could keep ours home. Ds went in with all day sun lotion smothered on and a hat, and still has a red face. I am cross. Feel so helpless about it.

HerRoyalNotness · 01/07/2015 16:08

I remember being at HS in NZ in the late 80s and if the temps got to a certain point, iirc 33ish, we got sent home. So it does not surprise me that it happened.

We're in Texas. I would note when dropping the DC to before school care about 7am, the football team and cheer team at the HS were in full practice mode at that time of morning. Most like started at 6.30am to get it done before the heat and before classes.
The way we manage the heat here is inside a/c cars, houses, schools and offices. Very rare to see anyone walking about in it, go to the park very early in the morning and leave before noon. Or find parks with the covers, most likely school playgrounds. It's very much more live indoors during summer here.

My father died of heatstroke in Australia, I don't take the piss with the sun.

Teacherinatutu · 01/07/2015 17:12

I spoke to his teacher this morning who confirmed that no she had not allowed them to take out water bottles as they get distracted from the lesson Hmm

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HelenaDove · 01/07/2015 18:00

Tutu that is fucking ridiculous and irresponsible.

chewymeringue · 01/07/2015 18:04

That's disgusting and highly irresponsible of her. Why couldn't she do a session in the hall instead? No one in their right mind is exercising in this heat for any length of time. I used to do a lot of long distance running. I wouldn't even have gone out for a 10 min jog in this heat. C

ASorcererIsAWizardSquared · 01/07/2015 18:16

ffs, there is a level 3 heatwave warning in place, this means people are advised not to go out between 11-3, not to do exercise and even to shade windows.. as well as drink plenty.

The school completely ignored that!