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Original poster

To want to report these neighbours to the council?

23 replies

isitnearlytime · 28/06/2015 10:34

There is a rented property in our road and we are positive that the tenants are running a business from the house. Now, I don't care what people do inside their own home and I certainly wouldn't want to prevent someone from earning a living....

However, in the beginning it was causing major traffic and parking issues in a very narrow and quiet side road. Driveways were regularly being blocked which was stressful. Several neighbours complained to the letting agent who said they had no knowledge of any business and that it would be a breach of the tenancy agreement to run one. They said they would discuss the matter with the tenants. They reported back that the tenants had strongly denied running any business. One of our neighbours also asked the tenants direct and got the same answer.

Immediately after this things improved considerably. Clients started utilising the driveway more or parking further away, although this has sparked a few complaints from neighbours at the other end of the road who were previously unaffected.

So, although tbh the situation is no longer affecting us really, it is very clear the business is going on. That does make me cross as does the fact that they may not even be paying tax. Also,I thought you needed planning consent to run a business from home and they don't have any!

The letting agents say they can do no more and suggested maybe we go to the council. I'm tempted. Would that be a very shitty thing to do??

OP posts:
Nanny0gg · 28/06/2015 10:38

So, although tbh the situation is no longer affecting us really

There's your answer.

GreenAugustLion · 28/06/2015 10:38

Now, I don't care what people do inside their own home

You clearly do. You already said you're not being affected by anything anymore...so why are you 'tempted'?

GreenAugustLion · 28/06/2015 10:40

And how are you 'positive' they're running a business? Maybe they just have a lot of visitors. Maybe they run a book club or something.

NoahVale · 28/06/2015 10:43

are you a council tenant?

NoahVale · 28/06/2015 10:44

That does make me cross as does the fact that they may not even be paying tax.

you are sitting on your high horse arent you

SaucyJack · 28/06/2015 10:47

Is she a prozzie?

GloGirl · 28/06/2015 10:47

In pure spite I tried complaining about someone running a business from their property. The council said they couldn't care less unless it was causing a real nuisance.

If your

chickenfuckingpox · 28/06/2015 10:47

discuss it with your other neighbours on how its affecting you all because if its affected you before it may well again you need to make a plan as to what you will put up with if it escalates you may all need to complain

or make it clear to your neighbour you will report it if they escalate again

reni1 · 28/06/2015 10:47

You clearly do care what people do in their house. It is not affecting you anymore, so yes, it would be a very shitty thing to do.

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isitnearlytime · 28/06/2015 10:50

Should have said I don't care what people do in their own homes unless it affects me or my neighbours, which it was until recently and I guess could escalate again. We have plenty of evidence regarding the business, one of the clients even disclosed it to a neighbour when he asked her to move her car. No I'm not a council tenant, we own our house.

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PtolemysNeedle · 28/06/2015 10:52

Why a sort of a business do you think it is?

DarthVadersTailor · 28/06/2015 10:57

Unless you've a reason to believe that something illegal is occurring at the property, and by that I mean someone dealing or the likes and not just avoiding some tax, and it doesn't affect you then leave sleeping dogs lie. Why get involved? What exactly would you get out of interfering in matters that don't concern you?

SideOrderofChips · 28/06/2015 10:58

Anyone else just intrigued as to what the business is?

LaurieFairyCake · 28/06/2015 11:03

You don't need any permission to run a business from home (I have a therapy business) - just insurance.

'Nuisance' like car garaging/mechanic is different as it creates a nuisance for neighbours

Nanny0gg · 28/06/2015 11:05

On my estate it is in the deeds that no business are run and no commercial vehicles parked on the street.

Both of these are ignored and probably a quarter of the homes have business run from them.

Complaints are only made if the vehicles cause a problem, which is rare. And then the owners remember to be thoughtful.

Otherwise, we live and let live.

Give it a try.

Handsoffmysweets · 28/06/2015 11:07

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yellowcurtains · 28/06/2015 11:09

You don't need planning consent for a business at home, unless it is the type that will cause pollution/noise etc e.g. car repairs, haddock smoking.

However, as tenants, there could well be a clause in their rental agreement/lease forbidding business use on premises.

We're a freeholder on a feudal estate, and we had to seek the landowner's permission to run our business (rules- no clients can come to house, no stock on premises, no pollution inc noise) in our own, fully-owned home.

Icimoi · 28/06/2015 11:12

If if causes all this traffic, it's highly likely to be against planning regulations. I would certainly report it to the council. It's all very well for people to jump on the fact that it's not affecting you at the moment, but it's virtually inevitable that the cars will start creeping back to your end of the road, especially when the other neighbours start complaining more vociferously. And if you close your eyes to one business then more will creep in.

Original poster
isitnearlytime · 28/06/2015 11:43

That was my concern Icimoi. What will happen when new students arrive over time? (it's a tutoring business). I'm not talking one or two kids but whole classes of kids (& adults). I was quite surprised when a man from the opposite end of the road knocked to ask what the "bloody hell" was going on in our neighbour's house.

Regarding contacting the landlord, a neighbour who knows them is considering doing that (the letting agent definitely hasn't done so and I doubt they intend to). I wondered about the insurance, wear and tear on the property, but obviously that's not my concern but I too would be cross if I were a landlord.

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Kintsugi · 28/06/2015 11:52

Hmm since when is avoiding tax not a crime ?
I' d rather not pay it..and certainly not pay enough to cover someone else's avoidance
And then there's business rates, zoning laws...and I'll just throw in benefits fraud..the lovely darker twin of the "off the books business"
All of those "affect" everyone who is letting sleeping dogs rip off the law abiding.....

RachelRagged · 28/06/2015 13:26

*SaucyJack Sun 28-Jun-15 10:47:11

Is she a prozzie?*

Grin

OP YABU

You sound quite jealous ,And what has it got to do with it being rented ?

Nanny0gg · 28/06/2015 13:32

By all means report.

They will probably be evicted or their lease not renewed.

If you're happy with that, then go ahead.

flora717 · 28/06/2015 13:35

There's a difference between running a business from home and working from home in some leases.

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