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AIBU?

to want to move house because of a neighbour?

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Confusedmartie999 · 26/06/2015 16:50

Have only lived here 5 months and signed into 12 month contract so can't go anywhere before then :(
They are making my life bloody hell, first it was knocking as the cat was going in their cat flap at night so now we chase the cat around all evening trying to catch him. I'm apokugised and bought them chocolates.
Then they knocked about him going in during the day at siting on their sofa.
Then they knocked about hearing the TV through the living room walls and today they saw me scuff another neighbours car ( mainly due to them coming around the corner and I thought they were going to stop to let me out and they didn't so I turned too much ) and as I got out to go and knock on the neighbours door said " not good not good " even know I was in tears with 2 young children in the back.
I can't live there any longer than I have to.

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specialsubject · 27/06/2015 13:31

all seems very trivial except the car damage; I'd be worried if I saw a neighbour of mine doing that (having had a car written off by a careless neighbour) BUT you did head off straight away to start off the insurance.

the cat thing is childish and can be ignored. Anyone with a catflap has to take their own measures to stop other cats coming in.

don't waste your landlord's time, there's nothing he she can do. Give your notice in good time and leave at the end.

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Confusedmartie999 · 27/06/2015 14:38

Wasn't planning on bothering the agent, can't imagine they would be remotely interested and unfortunately when we took this house we actually asked for the 6 month break clause to be removed ( as wanted a long let as son starts school this year ) so they won't change that now, plus we don't have the money needed to move now anyway.
I agree it's all trivial but when it's two of them against me with my two little children it does indeed feel like bullying.
I just can't imagine them making that kind of comment being made to my husband if it was him who scraped the car so for that reason they seem to be picking on me.
I pulled over straight away and went to find the neighbours car, I didn't leave the scene or anything so in a horrible situation I think the comment was unecessary and mean.
Life is too short it's just so bloody expensive and such a hassle moving always worrying if it will be a long let etc, but it has to be better than living here.
I just hope the next neighbours seen as bad, it would be pretty shit luck to get worse than this.

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specialsubject · 27/06/2015 14:54

you've no evidence that they would or would not make their trivial mutterings if your husband bashed the car.

I really don't see the problem. just smile and wave, and ignore.

living in smell range of a smoker is revolting but that's not you, and that's something anyone has to cope with if they live close to others. Don't see what the last tenant's problem was, everyone knows smoking is disgusting. But again, that's not you.

leave at the end if you want. But I think you could do a lot worse than these people.

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Adarajames · 27/06/2015 23:42

I really wouldn't class any if that as harassment, doubt police would either, just a neighbour having a moan now and then, not even that often. Compared to my loud music / fights / riots / blocked communal and Fire exits / police breaking down doors and dragging various people away etc etc neighbours, you'd be better off ignoring them and staying put as could end with some like that!
Annoying they may be, but pretty tame and ignorable compared to other possibilities!

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MidniteScribbler · 28/06/2015 02:47

Gosh, I think you need to move in to the middle of nowhere. You really like to play the victim, don't you?

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mathanxiety · 28/06/2015 05:39

I don't understand your upset, to be honest, about the driving thing. I would interpret their remarks about the dents in your old car and the scratch to the neighbour's car as clumsy attempts at humour. I really don't think they are out to get you wrt your driving, or picking on you. If you need more practice driving in built up areas then try to get some, and don't be so close to tears when you drive. Confidence is an important element of driving.

Wrt the cat, I think YABU to expect them to put up with your pet on their couch or in their kitchen, on their counters, licking their plates, leftovers, etc. It would definitely be nice if they got themselves a better cat flap/chip, etc. But there are more ways to entice cats indoors than chasing them around for hours, and having a litter box in your house wouldn't be the end of the world.

I think 'two of them against me with my two little children' is a bit OTT. Are you under a lot of stress (apart from the neighbours)? Are you recovering from loss of a loved one or something else upsetting in your life? Do you suffer from anxiety, do you think?

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Binkybix · 28/06/2015 07:09

The OP said she was driving to a funeral. That's the reason for the tears I think?

They sound a bit irritating but if you like everything else I wouldn't move. Just develop a thicker skin.

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IamtheDevilsAvocado · 28/06/2015 07:35

Two things:

You do seem very upset by these neighbours - your reaction does seem a bit OTT? I've observed and experienced far worse from difficult neighbours!! This makes me wonder whether you could leap out of frying pan and into a situation with really bad people ?

I think that this would not be seen as harassment by police....

Why don't you ask your agents to revert to including a break clause so you can leave earlier?

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Aridane · 28/06/2015 07:40

OP - you had a more sympathetic audience on the other thread when you just posted about your cat.

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RubbishRobotFromTheDawnOfTime · 28/06/2015 07:48

We have an unrestricted cat flap. When I find a non-resident cat in the house eating our cats' food I shrug my shoulders and think "well, that's what happens when you have a cat-sized hole in your door."

If I complained to my neighbours about it, I would be VU.

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CuppaSarah · 28/06/2015 08:01

Why can't they remove your cat themselves? When other people's cats make their way into my house they either bolt on site of me or are happy to be picked up and plonked outside. Your cat is obviously happy there and bit about to run around, so why not remove her?

Also the car things seem like bad attempts at a chat and a gossip. The TV thing is a non issue. Do you think maybe after the comments about council estates, the reason they don't talk to your husband is because he drives a work van and they're massive snobs? Instead of them trying to bully you?

Either way they're annoying sounding, but not bad neighbours. Just bored and a bit up themselves. Anymore incidents I'd consider setting some boundaries with them, otherwise ignore, ignore, ignore.

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cansu · 28/06/2015 08:02

They sound like utter twats and no doubt they behave like this because you are on your own and because you have been too nice to them. They probably feel superior because you rent your home. I have experienced similar nastiness. Interestingly, have now moved into own house and feel dynamic is different, probably because neighbours know that getting on with each other to a degree is necessary. I agree you need to stop apologising to them and start being assertive in the way you deal with them. Next time they come round, tell them to stop complaining to you about cat. There is no way you can help them any more. They need to take responsibility and lock their own cat flap. Moaning about the tv noise is also ridiculous. Yes, you sometimes hear the tv next door, this is pretty common in semi detached houses. You should not have to move the tv, you have been too accommodating and that is why they are taking the piss. Toughen up and stand up for yourself.

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Ledkr · 28/06/2015 08:05

Onky addressing you with their complaints is sneaky.
Ask your dh to go round and have a word.
Tell them to speak to him with any further complaints as you are too busy with the kids to be dealing with it.
Then refuse to engage further or just be fairly flippant "oh has he been in again? Oh dear sorry about that I'll have a word with him"
"Oh can you hear the tv? Yes thsts because it's on and we are joined to your house? We can hear yours sometines too, hey ho"
Ot just direct them to dh.
They do sound as if they feel they can control everyone around them.

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RubbishRobotFromTheDawnOfTime · 28/06/2015 08:48

"If strange cats come through your flap, it's time to consider buying a more secure device."

So if the op was to go in their house through an open window, would that be the neighbours fault too?

This is hilariously ridiculous. Grin

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Confusedmartie999 · 28/06/2015 12:02

No I'm not a stressed about anything else.
The car damage was my fault I saw just saying to those on here that as soon as I saw them pull in I wanted to get away as I was already upset and really didn't want to be listening about the cat problem again so I tried to get out and misjudged the gap, I should have waited I know. An expensive lesson to be learnt.
100% they are snobby, they look down on most people just from conversions I've over heard regarding people who rent / people not from this place / immigration issues, ponce is the word I would use for the pair of them.
Well it's actually got worse.
I was at work last night and when I got home at 2am my husband had waited up for me.
The lady across the road ( best friends with next door - not had many dealings with her apart from a note through our door on the 2nd day of us living here telling us there are lines for the parking spaces and my husbands van shouldn't be on the line but within it and a few weeks after when we had forgotten to bring our bin back until the evening as it makes the cul de sac look untidy ) shoved the cat ( her words ) through the cat flap and then tried to barricade him in with our bin!!
This was at 7.45pm in the evening as apparently he was attempting to fight with next doors cat.
Why she didn't just knock holding the cat is beyond me, or put him through and then knock but no she picked up our bin and placed it outside my front door.
What if we had opened the door and fallen over the bloody thing? At the least it would have sent the rubbish over which she would have moaned about anyway.
I've literally had enough now.

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Confusedmartie999 · 28/06/2015 12:23

I know, I physically don't know what else I can do.
It will just make the next 8 months of my life pretty shit having to live here.

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myusernamewastaken · 28/06/2015 13:39

I would get your husband to go round and have a word.....make it clear to them that you two are a united front and if they have any future issues to speak to your husband instead...
if they knock on your door again and your husband is not at home then don't answer....it is your home and you are not obliged to deal with them.
that is what i would do...but im a wuss and i hate confrontation so i just try avoid any.

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Ledkr · 28/06/2015 14:54

They sound like bullying cunts who think they can control everyone.
Somehow you have to stand up to them and they will stop.

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Confusedmartie999 · 28/06/2015 16:19

I know but I don't know how to.
Knocking at the door makes me look like a trouble maker doesn't it but I feel I need to stop this now, it's not fair and I have at least 8 months of it to go and I can't live like this for that long x

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Ledkr · 28/06/2015 16:28

Write a letter detailing each petty complaint and say that you feel victimised and uncomfortable in your own home and that you will continue to live your life in a way which does not impede on others happiness as you hope do they.
Id get dh to adress them from now in as they ckeRky see you as the soft target.

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Pipbin · 28/06/2015 16:31

Is there no responsibility on cat owners to try & control what their cats do, after complaints?

Well I guess they could talk to him, give him reward chart for every day when he does what he's told and then take his xbox away when he doesn't.

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specialsubject · 28/06/2015 18:56

wow, you live in nutjob central.

write 'get lost' (or worse) on any future notes and post them back.

your cat can look after itself. She won't get near it in future.

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LastUnicorn · 28/06/2015 19:55

pipbin Grin

Love the idea of sitting the cat down to discuss boundaries

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mathanxiety · 28/06/2015 20:41

Yes, she was driving to a funeral, but if she was so upset that tears came that easily after a minor driving problem and encounter with a neighbour, maybe it would have been better not to drive, especially with children in the car.

She has also let this problem get the better of her imo, if it affected her judgement while driving --
"as soon as I saw them pull in I wanted to get away as I was already upset and really didn't want to be listening about the cat problem again so I tried to get out and misjudged the gap, I should have waited I know. An expensive lesson to be learnt."
All parties were in their cars as far as I can tell, and I do not understand how she would have been subjected to any more conversation about the cat, that being so.

OP, I think your cat is annoying more than just one neighbour at this point, and while the law is on your side (sensibly recognising that cats are laws unto themselves), I think you need to acknowledge that cats can be very annoying to neighbours despite the law -- pooing in gardens, fighting with other cats, and yours lets himself into other people's houses. It is very possible that the neighbour who brought your cat in while he was fighting with her cat could not hold him and knock and wait because of being scratched or bitten. I know my cat would put up a heck of a fight if someone picked her up and she objected. In short, I think you should consider keeping him indoors.

I hope the neighbour doesn't repeat that in a way I didn't say it as no doubt they will knock having a go at me about that too.

I just can't imagine them making that kind of comment being made to my husband if it was him who scraped the car so for that reason they seem to be picking on me.

We left London for this place and I wonder if they just don't like outsiders, they've made it clear in conversation I have heard in the garden how annoying having a rented property next door is so maybe it's that

What if we had opened the door and fallen over the bloody thing? At the least it would have sent the rubbish over which she would have moaned about anyway.

The lady across the road ( best friends with next door)

This is (pardon the pun) catastrophising, seeing malevolence where there is probably none intended at all and letting it all cascade.

I think you will look like a loon if you go knocking on doors complaining about bullying. They are going to bring up issues they have with your cat, which are legitimate issues despite what the law says, and you are going to complain about their complaints about your H not parking within the lines (despite the parking regulations) and your interpretation of things you have heard over the fence and that have been said to you, all of which is 'eye (ear) of the beholder' stuff...

Basically what is happening here as far as I can see is all parties are having a tough time getting used to each other. You forget to bring in your bin, your cat annoys people by letting himself into their houses and fighting with their pets, your H parks outside the lines, your TV was audible in their house -- all of these things have had an impact on them. For their part, they have been rather quick to point out where you have been going wrong it has to be said, but all the same I see this as a matter of everyone just getting used to each other. You do not know apart from the problem with the smoker what issues they have had with the previous renters they have had living next to them over the years, and you do not know if your LL has been receptive to complaints by the neighbours about tenants, which may have made them be more assertive and wish to nip issues in the bud.

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