"Your argument is that hookers choose it and how dare anyone tell them different."
No, that's not my argument, I haven't put forward an argument yet.
My position is that false consciousness fallacy is fallacious. It is.
"Sure, at careers day they were told, how about prostitution, good career choice for you! They looked at the many prospects they had and chose walking the streets because it seemed like a great move! They aren't at all forced into it by poverty or drug use or violent men? They chose it of their own free will? You think one single woman thought, no, I won't be a lawyer or a nurse or a programmer, I'll be a prostitute? Nice try."
I had a good friend for many years who did just that, although sadly no more. She was a high genius, one of the brightest people I've known, could have done anything she liked and made mincemeat of third-rate intellectualized arguments that she was just some poor dumb slut whose whole life was a sorry litany of choices made for her by the evil world.
Like the one you have just "trotted out"
She also made more money in a few years than most people will see in their life-times, doing something she wanted to do.
She is not the only case of a person who chose that life, that I know of. So actually, on the contrary.
"Don't be a fool."
I'm not a fool, I can be reasonably clever, actually, but thanks for getting needlessly personal.
"That argument is used by men to justify their use of sex workers. They assign choice where there is none to make their own choices seem less repellant. Try listening to the real experiences of sex workers before you trot out these tired old tropes."
It's not trotted out by me to justify use of sex workers' services, because I don't. I had quite a few heated arguments on the matter, as I always disapproved of prostitution, strongly and was good friends with someone who actively enjoyed it who I wanted to "save", presumably on similar grounds to the beliefs you have, perhaps yours are sincere and heartfelt too.
On the other hand, I will make the observation, in the sad absence of those who would, that people who know the minds of other people better than they do are only able to say so in their absence - because the poor pitiful people they are talking about may well take exception. Whether it's a low income worker, an SAHP, a prostitute, a bank robber or whoever else that kind of talk is "representing" the effect is the same: "look at these poor automata to be pitied, obviously they would never have their wretched life if they had a choice because I say so, so even if they say they do, take it from me they aren't making a real choice, it isn't "real consent". The reality is that other people do make choices to do things.
"Over 70% of women began working in the sex industry as minors. The average age of entry into prostitution is FOURTEEN. Children and teenagers bought for sex. Was that their own choice, did they give consent? At least 50% were in the care system at some point. A similar number report being victims of sexual abuse. Once involved in sex work, 9 out of 10 women surveyed would like to get out but feel unable to. Is that free choice and consent?"
You're talking about rape and abuse victims. Yes rape and abuse victims are rape and abuse victims. A lot of people in the sex industry are also adopted, and an even higher proportion of transsexuals end up in it when they would rather not, too. Lots of people do get "caught up in" a life of abuse and prostitution, which is horrific. I am all for stopping that.
Also, people can choose to be sex workers, and it can't be assumed that someone who chooses to work in the sex industry "cannot give consent".
"Don't you dare tell me that I'm patronising women by telling the truth about their situation, as THEY have told us. angry And fuck off"
I'll tell you what I like, and politely, too (a trick you can copy if you like) but what I did was not "tell you you were patronizing women by telling the truth"
What I did was point out that people are assuming others cannot give "real consent" which is to suggest they are in some way mentally deficient.
If you let the red mist clear for a second, you'll see that I observed that, but also pointed out that I doubt it was intentional.
"commenting about sexual morality, as if that has the first thing to do with this. Prostitution isn't about sex, not to anyone but the punters. IT's about violence, exploitation, abuse and money. Very little of which gets to the women involved.
Get educated."
I grew up around prostitutes and their lives and their stories, believe me I am far more educated about the subject than I have ever wished to be, and have had my heart and my life affected more deeply by them than the average person who tells people to "get educated" about it will probably ever understand or empathize with.