Persil tablets a complete rip off! (⅓ missing)

[cweston1977]

I really am fed up with this, it really is unfair! I think that I'm getting a deal but actually I'm being ripped off, not good for my or Isabella, jus the two of us!

I've got lots of washing to do and think I'm getting the SAME deal that I did before, it looks the same, the box is the same size, but guess what, I'm losing ONE THIRD of what I expect from before.

That's right, Persil (Unilever) decided to keep not only the box the same size and even the capsule, which is why they have the wrinkly appearance and feel to them, because they're only two thirds full, that's why!

Look, I weighed them, not only was Unilever giving me more before than the stated amount (40g per capsule) but now giving me almost half in real terms at 27g!

The back of the old box states that each capsule should be 36.8g, but you got a nice plump 40g (I still had one left over). The new box states that they're now 26.3g (which is 10g less washing power!!) and the scales measure it at 27g.

I took note of the printed code from each box:

• old: 5023 21P3 00:24
• new: 5135 21P3 23:38

The old box was 1.288kg, while the new is only 920g, with nothing to signify this change, not even a change in price. I'd much prefer the same capsule amount, but fewer of them, are my clothes even being washed properly?!

This is really sly because they didn't even bother to change the bag size for the capsules, they just put less in and then sold them like that. Horrible to touch, they feel like they've been left out in the sun too long.

I feel cheated.

Have you noticed that your clothes aren't as clean coming out of the machine? If yes then you have grounds for complaint. But if not then I don't see the issue really. As others have said, the product could be more concentrated or something.

I use powder generally. Gets things cleaner, doesn't clog up your machine and far easier to adjust the 'dose' to your requirements.

"I'm surprised at the responses here. There havebeen several threads in the last couple of years how chicolate bars shrank but the price stayed the same. Oh, the outrage."

Well more condensed chocolate kind of doesn't work the same way as more condensed cleaning products, lol.

There havebeen several threads in the last couple of years how chicolate bars shrank but the price stayed the same.

I assume the OP is still getting exactly the same number of washes from the pack. With your chocolate bar example, you are getting less bites per bar.

Anyway, the reason the price hasn't reduced is 1) because you are still getting X washes and 2) because they might well have increased the price of the original product.

concentrated chocolate is bitter chocolate, no?

Haven't the new ones got some sort of stain remover in them and boosted liquid or some such bollox? So they have completely changed the liquitabs?

They are shit for your washing machine and not recommended by engineers, so I wouldn't use them, tbh.

"concentrated chocolate is bitter chocolate, no?"

But it's something you either want or you don't...if I bought milk chocolate and it was condensed to plain chocolate it doesn't fulfil my milk chocolate requirement.

All I want detergent to do is clean my clothes, I don't care if it's stronger while it does it.

I wish I had high standards OP. Must be such fun measuring liquid-tabs.

Maybe I just have higher standards than everybody here

Blimey, OP. Maybe you don't realise that even with the old product you don't need to use as much as the manufacturers say, and still get a nice clean wash. And maybe you haven't noticed that most cleaning products are constantly going for higher concentrations and better formulas, as it means much lower costs (and lower pollution) in transportation, etc. The same capsule size I'd attribute to them just keeping the same machines, as presumably it would cost to reset everything for smaller but plumper capsules.

Not everything is a conspiracy. And not everyone who thinks you are overreacting a tad is a ghastly sloven who doesn't understand your high standards.

I agree with you OP. Its the priciple. Its how manufacturers slyly sneak these changes in the back door.

I wonder why they have no plastered the new strength concentrate all over the front of the box nor the new improved cleaning power - cleaning the same amount with less product and advertising the green impact , less chemicals.

Maybe because actually they have no proof/evidence nor scientific research to back these claims up. If they did - they would be using this all over the box and any advertising campaigns.

The very fact these changes have happened with no mention to the consumer is maybe because its profit led.

All manufacturers are at it. The items bought in pound shops are sometimes not the bargain we think - smaller bottles, 4 packets of crips in a multi pack that looks the same as the 6 multi pack in mainstream supermarkets.

These days - you need to be studying the packaging of items alot more, because more often than not - its not a bargain or you are getting less for your money.

Crikey, and I thought I was underemployed some days .

Annie I agree in promciple with using less product but why the rpice stays the same? It does make it iffy if not necessarily a conspiracy.

Erm, yes, the same amount od washes but will the same quantity of each wash (let's say 5kg) will be cleaned as well as it was before? Or is the small tab appropriate only for 3,5kg wash?

Try powder OP.

Given how highly strung OP is over this MissDemzla, cocaine is the last thing I'd be recommending.

Maybe I just have higher standards than everybody here

Oh, get back to your palace, dear

Flips sake.
Such a lot of meanness on here.
It's nothing to do with how clean your clothes are, it's the fact that you are paying exactly the same for significantly less.
We are being conned. Many companies use this sly tactic.
I'd have thought this is the kind of thing MN WOULD get its knickers in a twist about, but instead it seems to be 'slag off the OP' day.

No, you are not being ripped off. You are getting the same number of washes for the same amount of money.

The fact the capsules have less in them, is neither here nor there. They have changed the concentration but it doesn't affect how many washes you get so shouldn't upset you.

It's nothing to do with how clean your clothes are, it's the fact that you are paying exactly the same for significantly less.

Using the 10 size pack as an example:

You were buying a pack that did 10 washes.
You are now buying a pack that does 10 washes.

How is that significantly less?

You're getting 368g less.
You may be getting the same number of washes, but there is almost 30% less liquid in the box. For the same price.

That's a total rip off to me.

Where on the box does it tell the consumer the capsules are new stronger strength and therefore getting less??

If that was the case - the box would be plastered with this advertising.

The fact there is no mention of sronger more concentrated product means there probably isnt any. This is a blatent tactic to sell less product at the same price to make more profit.

Its the principle.

theereshegoes we don't know you are getting less product. If it is more concentrated then you are getting the same active ingredients.
If it washes just as efficiently, then you are getting the same number of clothes clean - no loss.
Choclate bars are different as the smaller ones have less calories, so you are obviously losing out.

The box hopefully tells the consumer that they are getting less product because it is more concentrated not just sneak it in.

When fabric softners started to be more concentrated and come in little bottles - everything on them told you that you were getting the less liquid but the same amount of washes.

Why not do that with the tabs?

You may be getting the same number of washes, but there is almost 30% less liquid in the box. For the same price.

How does that differ from getting the same amount for more money? That often happens - it's called a price increase.

Thinks does not give you less. It gives you 10 washes. The weight of the product is irrelevant as you a re getting the same number of washes which is the only thing that actually matters. You could do 10 loads of laundry before, you can do 10 loads of laundry now.

everything on them told you that you were getting the less liquid but the same amount of washes.

Why not do that with the tabs?

It's right there on the box. 10 washes (or more, depending on pack size)