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Friend's OH has baby from previous relationship...lies lies lies

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BobbyElvis · 09/06/2015 10:39

A friend of mine has been dating her partner for over a year. When they first got together he had just found out his ex-girlfriend was pregnant.

The ex has always been jealous and hates my friend. When the baby was born she specifically said she wanted my friend to have nothing to do with baby. Fair enough.

Turns out that friend's partner has been taking the child to meet my friend and all of her family. They take baby on days out and she has even had baby overnight.

WWYD if you were the mother of this child? I'm finding it hard to be involved in such a horrible lie. If it was my child I would be furious. As far as I'm aware the mother is clueless.

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3CheekyLittleMonkeys · 09/06/2015 11:31

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vertigogogadgetno · 09/06/2015 11:33

I think people take it upon themselves to believe they are "involved" in somebody else's lie in a melodramatic way sometimes.

I have known people who thought they were "involved" in someone else's concerns (hint: they weren't) and "couldn't bear the secrets" (read: wanted to be nosey, interfering and cause drama) to cause people massive problems in the name of supposedly getting it all out in the open, but call an interfering busybody by any other name, it smells just as rotten.

My advice would be to butt out.

WorraLiberty · 09/06/2015 11:33

I also feel sorry for the mother...I would be very upset if I was her.

WTF? Why?

She sounds like a complete control freak.

Penfold007 · 09/06/2015 11:34

You need to stop being so invested in what's bluntly none of your concern. The child is with her father and when she is in his custody it's up to him who he does or doesn't allow contact with.

BobbyElvis · 09/06/2015 11:37

I appreciate your answers and am enjoying all the conclusions you have jumped to. Whether you care to broaden your small minds or not, I am involved and so are a lot of my friend's family.

Anyway, question answered. Thanks Star

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19lottie82 · 09/06/2015 11:37

You need to stop being so invested in what's bluntly none of your concern. The child is with her father and when she is in his custody it's up to him who he does or doesn't allow contact with.

Exactly this.

19lottie82 · 09/06/2015 11:38

I am involved

No, you're not. Just because you know the parties involved, it doesn't mean it's any of your concern. Really, this is none of your business. If you go interfering it won't end well. least of all for you.

19lottie82 · 09/06/2015 11:40

Are you drip feeding in some form with this story? Other wise I can't see why you feel so strongly about this.

WorraLiberty · 09/06/2015 11:41

Oh great

More toy out of the pram flinging by an OP who didn't get a unanimous "Oooh YANBU hun" xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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BeenWondering · 09/06/2015 11:45

Are you her OP? Purposeful vagueness...Because I otherwise can't see why anyone would take such interest in what is essentially a man spending time with his partner and child.

The mother needs to work on dealing with her feelings of jealousy and hatred (you wrote that in your post) because the only person here that will suffer if she continues on this path is the child.

fastdaytears · 09/06/2015 11:50

Oh yes Been I think the OP must be the mum. Way too involved otherwise. Crazy to think that the mum genuinely thinks it's ok to say who her daughter can be around when there are no more issues than the new girlfriend making mum crazy with jealousy. How dare the father choose a new partner (even one with potential ow roots) and move on with his life?

WorraLiberty · 09/06/2015 11:51

I agree Been

Debinaround · 09/06/2015 12:03

What you going on about op? Who has jumped to conclusions? Who is being small minded?

You didn't get the answer you want so you are being a baby and insinuating there is more to the story than what you have said. What are you? 15?Hmm

It's nothing to do with you.

Really nothing.

elementofsurprise · 09/06/2015 12:05

Turns out that friend's partner has been taking the child to meet my friend and all of her family.

I think that is crossing the line a bit. Obviously it's a bit unreasonable to expect no contact with the new partner, but going off to visit her relatives is a bit off.

It's difficult to put into words but there's something about this, as if they're doing the "happy family" act, all cosy together as if baby's mother doesn't exist. I cannot imagine taking a partner's child to visit my family when the child was still a baby. I suppose it might happen unintentionally - are we talking family days out "to meet the baby" or just days when the dad has custody overlapping with visiting relatives or relatives nearby who pop in?

When they first got together he had just found out his ex-girlfriend was pregnant.

The ex has always been jealous and hates my friend.

Hard to judge without knowing the relationship. I had an ex who's ex from before me was really horrible. He turned out to be abusive, and probably still stringing her along when we started seeing each other/at points in our relationship, so I've a lot more sympathy with her now. His next girlfriend thought I was mad bitch from hell! (Then he did the same to her, rinse and repeat.)

When did he find out his ex was pregnant? I'd be a bit peeved if I found out I was pregnant, told ex asap (ie. within a month or two of splitting up) and he was already starting up a relationship with someone else. If they then went aroud with my baby, being a little family without me (they've only been together a year or so!) it would really hurt. She's just gone through the life changing experience of having a baby, alone! I'd feel like I was just the workhorse who had to go through pregnancy and birth and all the hard bits, only to hand my baby over for others to do the fun, cute family stuff.

A lot depends on how it's done...

BestZebbie · 09/06/2015 12:27

If she was an OW when the mother was pregnant then she has pretty clearly demonstrated a complete disregard for the future/wellbeing/family life/stress-free home environment/healthy relaxed pregnancy of that specific baby - all qualities which obviously make her the perfect guardian of it (not).
She has also demonstrably harmed the mother, who is therefore totally within her rights to regard her as a dangerous threat of a person, and therefore not a fit person to be entrusted with her extremely vulnerable young child. That isn't U, that is 100% rational behaviour honed by millions of years of looking after babies.

PrivatePike · 09/06/2015 12:35

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Micah · 09/06/2015 12:36

*she has even had baby overnight

Does this mean that your friend had the baby overnight when the father was not around? If so shock shock shock that is not on and I would contact the mother.*

Why is this not on? He had responsibility for the baby, and found appropriate care if he was unable to have the child. If he'd have cancelled contact the usual response is his responsibility to find childcare. It's not different to the mother leaving the baby with a friend or relative overnight is she needs/chooses to.

SorchaN · 09/06/2015 12:37

I think one of the issues here is whether the OP is being expected to be part of the lying. It seems similar to situations where you find out that a married friend is secretly having a sexual relationship with another married friend. It's better not to know, but once you do know, do you tell anyone, and if you don't tell, are you complicit? I bloody hate knowing other people's secrets.

CeliaLytton · 09/06/2015 13:10

YABU

(TBH I can't bring myself to care but YABU to be quite so wound up by a thread you started presumably to gauge opinion)

diddl · 09/06/2015 13:18

So the father has the baby regularly & overnight?

And the mother really thinks that in that time he deliberately doesn't see his gfriend??

Of course she knows!

Cherryblossomsinspring · 09/06/2015 13:42

OP, he has every right to decide who the baby sees and doesn't see in his care, as long as he is safeguarding her. You say you have a problem with the lies but maybe he feels its the only way to keep the peace. He needs to get on with his life while including his new child. If he felt his ex would try to stop contact, take him to court, damage his growing relationship (with child) etc. then I can totally understand why he doesn't tell her. In an IDEAL world (and there is rarely ideal when 2 people who don't want to be together have a baby that ties them together in the most sensitive way possible for the rest of their lives) the mother would accept that the fathers gf would naturally be involved and would work with the couple to ensure the child sees good relationships between all the adults. But I know this situation well and I can tell you, the damage that both parties can do to each other if this turns acrimonious is limitless. So keep out of it and if you have to say/do anything, remember that the most important thing is that this child has a good relationship with its mother and its father and that both parents get on as best as possible for its sake. End of.

googoodolly · 09/06/2015 13:51

Ex is completely in the wrong here. The father has as much right as the mother to look after his child, and she has absolutely NO say in who he gets to introduce to his baby to. She might not like the idea of another woman looking after her baby, which is understandable, but unfortunately it's tough cookies.

Parents have equal rights and unless the new girlfriend is a danger to her baby (which she isn't from what you've said), then she has no right to dictate anything!

hibbledibble · 09/06/2015 13:55

I sympathise with the ex gf here. Her ex bf either cheated on her, or started a new relationship very quickly, leaving her alone and pregnant. He doesn't exactly sound like a gentleman. Has he been supporting her during the pregnancy?

Lying to the ex gf is also wrong. As the mother she has a right to know who is seeing her child during contact, and also to keep her child safe. As we know nothing from your op about new gf and her family, we have no idea whether they are a danger or not.

This reads like a reverse aibu. Are you the ex gf? (Or the new gf??)

googoodolly · 09/06/2015 14:00

I bet you ANYTHING the baby's dad doesn't get the right to vet who the ex has around their daughter. So why should she get to vet who he brings around their child?!

They're both equal parents. How their relationship ended has nothing to do with his capabilities as a parent.

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