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42 replies

Leafitout · 07/06/2015 12:13

Basically deadbeat ex has lied to the CSA in his tax returns pleading poverty so they have wiped his arrears of four grand away. His contribution is now the grand total of ten pounds and seventy nine pence per month and not even that he has made any effort to pay!

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hiddenhome · 07/06/2015 21:26

These types of 'men' only care about their bellies and their cocks.

Serves us right for getting involved. If we had more sense they wouldn't be able to reproduce.

NormaStits · 07/06/2015 21:42

I don't understand why the csa can't just get the earning records up of these men.

My partner's ex hasn't paid any child maintenance in 10 years. Recently we received a letter saying the arrangement was changing so she phoned up and asked how an arrangement of £0 changing to £0 warrants a letter and they said the onus is on her to find out where he's working now. She said she didn't have contact now and they said she should, so that she could tell them where he works! He was abusive, and she's had legal advice to keep him away, but the guy on the end of the phone just said 'but is there really no we you could keep in touch?'.

Don't know what the csa actually do, they only seem to deal with cooperative parents, they do fuck all to chase the others.

hiddenhome · 07/06/2015 21:46

It's too difficult to chase them and the mothers are too stressed out and busy raising their kids to lobby anyone and try to improve things.

thesnailandthewhale · 07/06/2015 21:53

I too was told arrears are never written off. My ex had arrears of over £2k and I often mentally planned what to do with them (usually ds savings account or a holiday for ds). Then one day they decided to write to me and say that he didn't owe them anymore and they would let me know if I owed him money?!? Cue a very heated phonecall to them where they breezily told me that despite lots of promises that the arrears could never be removed, they had now decided that in fact they had "made a mistake" and calculated something wrong a couple of years before and they "had a duty to ex" to ensure it was put right Hmm
Luckily I have always managed fine financially without his contributions, but I never believe a word the csa say anymore about payments Angry

hiddenhome · 07/06/2015 21:59

I had arrears that were written off. I suffered from depression and didn't have the mental energy to argue. I tried, but they tied me up in knots. Even dh, who worked in accountancy couldn't figure out what they'd done to wriggle out of it. I think ex p made some sort of deal with them to pay a pittance if they agreed to drop them.

I was owed around £6,000.

He's a thief. Nothing less than a filthy thief.

FlabulousChix · 07/06/2015 22:44

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PrimalLass · 07/06/2015 22:53

Helpful Shock

hiddenhome · 07/06/2015 22:54

I do earn enough, and I provide for him well, but that's not the point. These cocks shouldn't impregnate someone if they're not prepared to help provide for the offspring.

It's the principle.

ChameleonCircuit · 07/06/2015 22:55

Flabulous - I'm not in the situation of having to use the CSa but even I found your comment disgusting. It's not 'help' it's contributing to the upkeep of their offspring Angry

lunalelle · 07/06/2015 23:00

Gosh, yes, why didn't I think of that, Flabulous? All I had to do was go out and find myself excellent childcare and a highly paid job at the age of 19 :/

mrsallergy · 08/06/2015 23:01

Ha ha Flabulous - thanks for giving me a good old giggle!

Here, you can have a Biscuit for coming first place in Completely Missing the Fucking Point.

NeedsAsockamnesty · 08/06/2015 23:22

The worst one I ever came across was one mum whose ex owed thousands as he was a high earner through Csa they refused to chase him.

When she sold the house and had to pay him his share the court would not allow her to remove his child support debt from the sum she paid him and the Csa refused to chase him after being notified he had just been handed a cheque for several thousand pounds.

Can not recall the exact sum he owed her but it was almost 15k

NormaStits · 08/06/2015 23:26

Hiddenhome, how can it be too difficult to chase them? They have national insurance numbers, most will either be in the paye system or benefits system somewhere.

The recent letter my partner got was sent to our new address which she has not given them and cited her ex with a new surname, which according Facebook he has indeed changed to. So they can find people in the system but they can't link child support payments to a person's income via the tax system?

Like wit the op, surely the wages could be verified through his wageslips and tax paid each month. We have computers for this stuff now, it shouldn't be this hard.

NeedsAsockamnesty · 08/06/2015 23:28

You can always do what I did for 15 years and that's earn enough to raise your children without the sperm donors help

I do thanks. However my children have a legal right to be supported by both parents and to grow up knowing that both parents took responsibility for them.

Incidentally the child I'm talking about was born during an 11 year marriage after treatment to assist with his conception and when dad and I parted company I gave his father a house.

The odious little man spent the next decade trying to convince everybody he was poverty stricken living on £65 pw (no benefits) whilst driving a Lamborghini

flowersthatbloominthespring · 08/06/2015 23:28

If anyone posting here voted Tory, then FYI, this is what Cameron meant when he beamed into the camera and talked about "reform of the benefits system". When he said "reform" he meant "cuts". There's no one left to investigate/enforce. You get what you vote for. Enjoy!

Five more years....

(more to come)

NeedsAsockamnesty · 08/06/2015 23:38

Flowers CM is not a benefit.

However he did do the whole revamp of the CM system to make it have even less clout than it ever did and introduce a waste your time fee

shipinabottle · 08/06/2015 23:50

Flabulous your comment about doing what you did and earning enough to take care of the kids with no money from sperm donor is offensive

First of all the obvious why should a mother or father get out of paying for their children?

Secondly it is bloody hard providing for your children on just one wage and juggling all the childcare responsibilities because the ex is absent.

Thirdly what about people who can't manage to earn enough to support their children due to whatever reason (illness,disability etc) and they need to pursue the ex to pay maintenance. It's not as easy as just deciding I will just get a very high paid job and that's that problem solved don't need no maintenance money.

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