That a 7 year old shouldn't be telling me to fuck myself.

[Roseforarose]

I've been babysitting for my 11 yer old Dgd and because today was a nice day she's been playing out with the kids on the street. There's one particular girl age 7, I'll call her Anna, who often plays with them. Usually after 10 minutes or so she upsets the others one way or the other. Last week my Dgd came in crying saying this girl had said she was glad that my dgds grandad was dead. If she's not taunting like this she's either hitting or kicking.
Really she's too young to be playing with them but she just tags on. She's so angelic looking and when she wants to be can so nice.
Today Anna had her roller skates on and kicked one of the girls hard on the shin. I saw her do it so said "that's naughty, you shouldn't do that."
She went indoors, minutes later came out and told my Dgd "your nana can fuck herself" .
What do you say to that? Tomorrow she'll be round knocking on the door like nothing's happened.

Invite them to play in your garden and don't let the bratty kid in. Of course she's a product of her parents but if she doesn't learn that her behaviour is unacceptable she won't stop.

But if she doesn't learn that her behaviour is unacceptable she won't stop

How does a child that age learn that her behaviour is unacceptable?
Shouting at her won't help
Her parents won't enforce it

As usual, school probably has to do something about it.

She learns by not being invited to play with the other children.

I would be wondering where the 7 year old has heard those words and what is going on in her life to make her act out that level of nastiness and aggression towards other children.

I agree with the round that girl would not be coming near my property or my children. No matter where she learned it from, if her mother had a problem with that, id tell her exactly why she's not allowed near my kids...

Those of you saying she needs a slap, you want to teach her not to be aggressive by being aggressive towards her? My guess is that she probably experiences plenty of aggression and probably does get a slap at home.

My seven year old doesn't know those words. She has learnt them somewhere, either home or school.

Having said that, it's absolutely fine to let your grandchild into your garden with a couple of children of your choice. I'd have no problem telling the girl that X doesn't want to play with her while she isn't being very nice.

Aren't manners and considerations for others being deprecated in this society? I see inconsideration on a daily basis. I teach my daughters all kinds of ps &qs. However, on the subject of inconsiderate drivers, I teach my infants that people who beep pedestrians out of the way are tossers. The thing is, I say it (to the drivers) and I also genuinely believe it. It goes against my general philosophy. But, in this case I think it's worth an exception. So, my children have had lessons in how to spot a tosser in a car and can identify one.

I could be wrong, but being nice about other people isn't automatically and unqualified good, especially when they don't deserve it.

Really it depends on the children concerned. Do you think the other child might have a neglectful/crappy home environment?

Whether you send the message through closing the gates or inviting her in and setting an example, it can be useful for a neglected/craply brought up child to encounter the reality that in some places wrong behaviour might really be seen as actually wrong, and those might be places where you are treated nicely and respectfully, and feel a bit human, and want to be.

I would keep it 100% firm, but 100% decent and nice. Whatever you do don't try to make the child feel small or bad or the worst person in the world, could be be water off a duck's back to them.

"I'm sorry DGD cannot play today, she is not allowed. There has been swearing going on and that is not OK here. Perhaps try another day."

(and do not discuss the issue further, obvs)

To see the funny side. For a child to tell you to do that was a failure of logic. And language.

I only find swearing funny when it comes out of the blue from a suprising. sauce.

For eample If a prime Minister said to a heckler "Stop being such a t+sser"

In general swearing is ugly; especially from youngsters

pps are already asking, though, what about the parents?

If the dad is a regimental sergeant major, or a truck driver, swearing might be one of his regular tools. If the parents are both senior editors on the Independent, then it might be more of a surprise. Surely, language means different things to different people.

I was called a cunt and a wanker last week by an eight year old but he has ADHD and his Mother said that is part of it.

Probably will sound awful now, Sole but it seems like there are labels and excuses for everything now. In my day you dearsent look side ways at an adult let alone call one a cunt and wanker. And it's these parents that don't correct or at least try to correct their children that are to blame. I mean would it have caused him any harm for her to say. A simple that's not nice to talk to the lady like that. Too many mothers pussy foot around and seem to have an allergy or something to disciplining their children. Whilst in the mean time they're persecuting everyone else
I must tell this story.... There's this lovely sweet old lady by me. I know it's clique to say that all old people are sweet but this lady really is. A proper elegant lady.
Anyway she's really into gardening and as you'd imagine keeps her garden beautiful. It's like something out of a story book, so this kid goes into her garden and starts picking the flowers and the old lady let's call her Mary to save writing old lady all the time. Comes out as sweet as anything and says really in offensively. oh don't pick the flowers, sweet heart. The kid let's call him Joshsaid. I'll do what I want.
Mary closed her door probably though not much more of it, and then I hears screaming snd shouting while I'm upstairs. Along the lines of. If he (Josh) wants to pick flowers he will and he fuckin can. They're flowers kids pick them what's your fuckin problem. Now keep in mind this is a 6ft tall man speaking like this to a poor defenceless old women. Any way I'd heard enough. There was no way I was going to ignore that. Poor Mary was terrified. So I went over and said. What's going on. And I got you keep your fuckin nose out of it you. Resulting in a massive altercation. But then I'm not a timid old lady who was scared of him. Yes I was putting myself at risk but I simply won't stand for weak and vulnerable people being targeted and threatened and that's the end of it, anyway who should show up. Mary's grandson. As you can well imagine and understand. He went absolutely nuclear.
Alright picking on women ect. Big brave I'm so hard threatening old ladies was soon put in his place. He apologied and said "oh it was just amiss understanding.
No it wasn't a miss understanding you just shit yourself because you were faced with a man. Funny that always seems to happen when men pick on women
Anyway goes without Mary was never bothered again
Scumbag family and I'll call them scum bags because that's what they are moved away about Year later.

Sole that is utter shite, being called horrible words like that is down to poor parenting not the ASD.

Scumbag family and I'll call them scum bags because that's what they are moved away

Scumbag parents. Who have an effect on their children who see what can happen and what they can get away with.

I've worked in a lot of schools. You certainly see a massive difference in the way some children speak to and treat adults. If a child is not picked up on it, what kind of adult will they turn into?

Evil he went on an awful swearing rant whilst I was driving. I'm so confused.

I'm not sure about the label scum bag, but, lets call a certain stereotype aggressive, ignorant and uncouth, I think another popular label is chavvy.

Suppose some children are chavvy, what's to be done about it? I know there are Brit movies about taking 1980s chavvy, young females and turning them into ladies. But, that's fiction. Can it really be done it life?