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to put up 8ft bamboo screening to block next doors extention from overlooking me

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pettywitchinlondon · 01/06/2015 10:29

Really pissed off that my previously overlooked house is now.

Was just going to put it up temp by concrete in builders pots and posts and gradually move it towards the boundary.

It will block some light from their side windows but far less than their extension blocks for the other neighbours.

I'm totally reasonable right?

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oddfodd · 01/06/2015 13:55

I want a quiet life too but if you ever want to see your property, you've effectively given away land.

If you are actually in London, that's worth £££. But obviously that's up to you.

In answer to your original question, you can grow a massive hedge if you want between you and your new neighbour - you don't need to grow things in pots and shift them gradually. Fences are limited to 2m high although you can attach trellis to the top of them.

oddfodd · 01/06/2015 13:57

sell, not see!

pettywitchinlondon · 01/06/2015 14:00

Yes I know. Lots of this happened before I moved in - the last 90 year old here probably did allow her to be taken advantage of.

I'll fix the guy the one side. By reinstating the fence he took down.

The other guy his whole fence is half on my side as the posts are on my side, the panels his. That's 2-3 inches. Its annoying but I'm OK with.

Will ask him to remove this new post from my guarage in a nice way.

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kilmuir · 01/06/2015 14:02

you are being a walk over.
Council (planning) would have sent you a letter about their extension, to give you chance to see plans and object

fearandloathinginambridge · 01/06/2015 14:06

It sounds like you aren't going to go ballistic but just in case you were thinking of going round to his side and ripping nails out of your garage wall then don't. That's trespass and criminal damage.

Don't get stressed,have a Google around some garden law forums and you will probably find out some useful info based on others experience.

pettywitchinlondon · 01/06/2015 14:11

Well I could easily rip off the nails banged into my guarage without tresspassing and the fence that was here before me just has a right angle connecting thing and four screws into my guarage. I could also remove that without trespass as its all on my property.

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PoppyBlossom · 01/06/2015 14:16

You need to start thinking as a buyer if you plan to sell in 18 months. To be blunt, most people aren't as foolish as to go into the biggest investment of their life with no survey. When prospective buyers do get a survey and they see that what the reality of the situation is differs from what the deeds say, they'll be concerned. What you are selling them is different to what the legal papers will say that they are buying.

Icimoi · 01/06/2015 14:28

Thing is pesto it won't be a fence. It will have is base in a pot and will be inches from the boundary. I could just move it and move it back if the council asked me to.

To be honest, I wouldn't rely on that if I were you. Face it, you wouldn't have any reason to put bamboo fencing in pots in your garden for any purpose other than fencing. The council might well take the view that if it looks like a fence and acts like a fence it is one. And if you have to move it back when asked, then there's not much point in having it. I suggest you go for the hedge option.

pettywitchinlondon · 01/06/2015 14:29

That's what I'm thinking now poppy. The stuff attached the the garage is the only issue at the moment. Will get that sorted very quickly. Couldn't see someone being pout off by a fence attached to an outbuilding tbh and even if he did render they wouldn't know this when buying right?

Well I didn't get a survey as was a rushed sale and spoke to a few experts in this, the basic survey s often miss things and just state the obvious. I just had a builder come round he spend a whole day and said it was sound and pointed out the few things that might need some attention. Most surveys arentr worth the paper they are written on said my b to let uncle who has over 30 properties.

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pettywitchinlondon · 01/06/2015 14:32

Can't grow a hedge as its concrete. I've been growing lenandii bamboo in pots, won't be big enough this year so want this fence ish thing in quickly.

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pettywitchinlondon · 01/06/2015 14:34

Obviously I had the surveys done for the boundrys, land registry , drainage and all that. Just not for the building, the basic typoe that mortgage companies demand you get. Think you have to get those else the solicitor wouldn't be able to do their job!

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Collaborate · 01/06/2015 16:03

Plenty of extensions don't need PP: - see this www.planningportal.gov.uk/permission/commonprojects/extensions/

It is a party wall if it is within a few metres of the neighbouring property I think. Not sure of the distance - I would have to look it up. But a party wall does not just mean an adjoining wall for the purposes of planning or building. - Where on earth did this notion come from? A party wall is one that sits on top of the boundary. A wall owned by one side it built right up to, but not on, the boundary.

If the side fence is attached to your garage, and you are the sole owner of the garage, don't you then own the fence?

Have a look at this thread on the gardenlaw site that outlines the potential pitfalls of you allowing your neighbours to take the piss www.gardenlaw.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=19900&hilit=meter This is about someone whose neighbour's electricity supply ran through their land. Years later they still are not able to use their property as they would like.

Collaborate · 01/06/2015 16:08

The other guy his whole fence is half on my side as the posts are on my side, the panels his. That's 2-3 inches. Its annoying but I'm OK with.

What do the deeds say about ownership of the boundary fence? Anything? If it's partially on your land it may well be a party structure, though the PWA doesn't apply to fences.

Well I could easily rip off the nails banged into my guarage without tresspassing Is there a large gap between your garage wall and the boundary?

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to put up 8ft bamboo screening to block next doors extention from overlooking me
to put up 8ft bamboo screening to block next doors extention from overlooking me
Strawberyshortcake · 01/06/2015 16:11

You should've received a letter by post that this extension was going through planning permission to give you the opportunity to bring up any complaints, that's what they have to do by law if it required building regs/PP. Just make sure about the fencing as I'm pretty sure there is a restriction on how high you can actually have it.

pettywitchinlondon · 01/06/2015 16:19

It is a party wall if it is within a few metres of the neighbouring property I think. Not sure of the distance - I would have to look it up. But a party wall does not just mean an adjoining wall for the purposes of planning or building. - Where on earth did this notion come from? A party wall is one that sits on top of the boundary. A wall owned by one side it built right up to, but not on, the boundary.

Not totally sure what you mean. My garage is built up to the boundary but not on it- there was a few inches between our garages before he demolished his.

The fence is on the boundry but the screws for the post go into my garage and are defo on my land .

Do you think this wall isn't a party wall?

Without sounding stupid, I don't have the deeds. I bought it outright and didn't get an old bit of paperwork I was expecting. I was told its all online. .. Will checkout the land reg think I need to get a copy of them.

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pettywitchinlondon · 01/06/2015 16:22

Thanks I'll checkout their shop, although I do find garden centres expensive and planning to move in 2016-17 so not investing loads into it.

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Strawberyshortcake · 01/06/2015 16:22

Good luck. I can understand why u are pissed off, I would be too. Hope u can sort something out so u can get your privacy back.

pettywitchinlondon · 01/06/2015 16:23

I have got lenadii growing in 50l building tubs. Sadly they haven't grown wild like I was hoping!

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MadameJulienBaptiste · 01/06/2015 16:29

We just put a conservatory up in our small garden - within permitted development so didn't need planning permission. Although we did discuss with neighbour before going ahead.
The side that faces next door had to be opaque glass. It's the rule.
no need for solicitors etc, ring up the council environmental dept and ask if he can put clear glass windows directly overlooking your property. Ask them about him attaching things to your garage too. They have people trained in speaking to awkward and entitled neighbours and we're very effective for us.
Our neighbour vented out a combination boiler from their (existing) 2 storey extension... It poked into our back yard and belched the steam and fumes directly under our children's window.
Council bod was straight round, dealt with it very nicely and liaised with the fitting company to come back and move the boiler.... They heating Co boss had a fit at the guy who fitted it in that position knowing it was illegal!
If we had involved solicitors or tried to sort it ourselves it could have got very nasty.

Council every time for me.
(We did move to get away from those neighbours as the boiler vent was just the start...)

3littlefrogs · 01/06/2015 17:51

Collaborate - I have just been told by the planning department that I must issue a party wall agreement to my neighbours who are 2 full width drive ways away from my side wall (detached house) because I am building a small extension that crosses half my driveway. It will not encroach on their boundary at all, but the party wall agreement still applies. It is to do with the depth of the foundations - if there is any possibility that my extension will have deeper foundations than their existing wall I have to write to them and they can ask me to pay for a survey. There will still be about 6 feet between the two properties. My builder and surveyor confirm this.

It might be the case that the OP's neighbour should have issued a party wall agreement before building his extension. It does sound as if it might be quite close to her property - I wonder if he did go through the correct planning procedures.

3littlefrogs · 01/06/2015 18:07

www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/393927/Party_Wall_etc__Act_1996_-_Explanatory_Booklet.pdf

Pge 18: Excavation within 6 metres of neighbouring property

Collaborate · 01/06/2015 18:20

That doesn't make the wall itself a party wall. It makes the building of the wall subject to the Party Wall Act. A party wall is a wall the ownership of which is shared between two estate owners.

toots111 · 01/06/2015 18:21

I'm interested that people are telling OP to prevent neighbour from rendering garage wall. We've just removed an ivy bush from our garden that had grown all over our neighbours extension. It isn't rendered and it is very ugly. So we planned to offer to render it, to protect their exposed wall and to ensure we don't have to look at something so ugly. But it sounds like from responses here that the neighbour might be hugely offended by this and assume I'm trying to somehow steal their extension. Rather than just not look at something pig ugly from my garden!

pettywitchinlondon · 01/06/2015 18:26

Toots I'm still not sure on that issue.

Tbh if he doesn't render it then it will be exposed so it will need to be rendered and it is ugly from his side. I'm planning on letting him still render it but insuring he knows its not his property and can't attach anything to it. The wall facing his house is my property and is not shared.

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