To wonder when does old shit become vintage?

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Just that really - the local charity shop has a "vintage event" which as far as i can see, means upping the price on anything that my aged mother would wear and calling it "vintage". The same goes for "retro". My DD lives in Margate (for her many sins) and its retro this and vintage that, even Dreamland is being called a "vintage" theme park, well ok, there's the scenic railway but as far as i can see from peeking through a whole in the fence the rest of the stuff looks pretty modern high tech stuff of travelling fairs (not traditional at all!) - i remember Dreamland how it used to be and it is NOTHING like that! But they will call it "vintage/retro" and justify the millions of £££s spent.

I must be getting really curmudgeonly in my old age but it proper boils my piss.

Now don't get me wrong, i like old stuff but i don't want to pay through the nose for it because someone has called it vintage - oh and a bit of bunting does not vintage make!

Me too UriGeller, I have some beautiful 20s, 30s and 40s clothes - all 'second hand' and cheap as chips back in the day. I don't even bother looking anymore. Whoever came up with calling it 'vintage' was an evil marketing genius.

Mind you I also blame that Kate Moss for making it fashionable.

So this weekend we are going glamping in our vintage tent, to a wonderful little site that offers wild camping, alongside bespoke, upcycled toilet blocks turned into a dream retreat. All decorated in a retro shabby chic style with Artisan bread served by our very own lentil weavers.

As long as there's a swimming pond I'll come too....

AAahhh. Don't say that! I've just started buying some quirky old crap things to resell.

My theory is that if you describe and photograph it in a charming/interesting/artful enough way it will sell!!

If you could predict the next craze - well then you'd make money.

I've always wondered about houses that are described as 'architect designed' as some kind of special added value feature. Who designed all the other houses, a bus driver??

The next craze is 1930's pre war.

I think we follow trends in the US. Looking at their online mags there is an article about Laura Ashley and quite a few pics of a 'stately home's', possibly thanks to Downton, influence, with a bit of oak panelling or gilt framed pictures.

when does old shit become vintage?

When someone figures out how to turn it in to a dragonfly and puts it on Pintrest.

If you are putting your old crap pieces on eBay - don't forget to put the words 'shabby chic' in the title. It instantly triples the price you can charge for it!

Reminds me of an episode of The Apprentice when they had a 'pop up shop' for 'vintage' tat. A pop up shop in my day was a bunch of dodgy dealers hiring the village hall for a day flogging either broken or stolen TVs/DVD players etc and branding it 'liquidation stock'.

I like vintage fairs and stuff but sometimes charity shops try to cash in on it b putting up "vintage" signs, when in fact its the same old tat that no-one wants and vintage fans are pulled in on false pretences. Just by putting a sign up doesn't make it vintage. Vintage to me means old and desirable. Nice clothes and stuff that happen to be old.

Etsy regard vintage as 20+ years.

therefore I have a vintage ikea pine dresser

HootsMon you can't use the term 'shabby chic' its been trademarked by Rachel Ashwell and copyrighted by someone in the US even though thousands do

When you've upcycled/refashioned/repurposed/decoupaged/embellished/reworked some old piece of crap you paid .50p for at a car boot sale - according to pinterest

We had one of these shops down the road. It was full of shabby chic stuff that someone had picked up from car boots etc. It lasted a few months but has now closed due to the ridiculous prices.

If they'd opened the shop a mile away in Jesmond, that shite would have sold like hot cakes.

SaucyJack :) We could probably open a Vintage Knickers Emporium between us.

Vintage is anything between 20 and 100 years old.

Antique is 100 years or older.

Them's the generally accepted rules of the antiques trade, although some in the business use an 80 year benchmark.

When someone is prepared to pay. I buy and sell some old things and I think you can charge more if they are in the right setting When I do a refurb and its looking its best I sell all the finishing touch stuff off and they always sell for double shown in a nice space Some of it is old tat (imho)

Lots of these sort of shops where I used to live, very busy and making a fortune most of them.

Amazed to see in one of them a rather worn look 'Florence & Fred' AKA Tesco jumper selling for around £15 more than I'd paid for the same thing several years before.

Clearly the absolute definition of vintage.

I agree with other posters Downton prewar is the new trend.

Vintage used to mean 20s didn't it? From the French?
Now it seems to mean anything from 70s or earlier.

I saw a pretty biscuit tin in a charity shop (styled and marketed as a vintage shop). £15! A few doors down I bought a vintage Roses chocolates tin in an ordinary charity shop for 99p. So I think the difference is "more money than sense."

For one frightening minute l really thought you meant yer actual shitty shit. So glad l was wrong and I haven't been flushing away something potentially valuable all these years.

Looking at ebay I would say vintage means anything with a layer of scuffed chalky white paint on it!

reminds me of the Harry Enfield sketch in the shop in Notting Hill, buying some crap

Mind you I also blame that Kate Moss for making it fashionable.

Yes, just like she ruined festivals the year she wore those bastard wellies.

Now there are festival guides in every broadsheet newspaper and festival fashion features in magazines read by dull girls from work.