to discourage my daughter from doing apprentise?

[ghostspirit]

it would be working in an office. 40 hours a week 500 a month.

reason i dont want her to do it is. 1st year at college she done an animal care course. she passed parts of the course but not all of it. was meant to do so many hours work experience. she never done that and there are other bits she never done. so that was a waste of her first year.

2nd year she decided to do beauty course. its twice a week. had lots of problems getting her to go in for them 2 days on and of through the year. she only has till july to go, and she wants to give it up to do the apprentise. im thinking it will be another year wasted when shes so close to finishing. also if its a struggle to get her to college twice a week how she going to manage 40 hours.

shes coming up 18 but shes younger than her actual age though.

do i discourage her and push her to finish college. or let her get on with things

lovesooty she said she would not get any free time. to be honest i never questioned much about it. but shes still looking at other aprrentise and jobs. so keeping options open.

My dd had an apprenticeship with a solicitors and within 18months was employed as legal secretary. She has since undertaken training to become a legal executive.
She was 17 when she started, it was the making of her.

My mistake ydl.

But ghost surely she realises that adult full time work is generally at least 37 hours per week?

I honestly wonder whether she's being realistic - her two days a week college timetable isn't something she can expect to aspire to when seeking apprenticeships or employment.

yeah she does sooty i think she still happy to do the course shes doing. i think she just wants a bit of money in her pocket. which is a step in the right direction. couple of months ago that did not bother her. now that it does she is looking for work. she has had a couple of interviews.

Glad things are looking a bit more positive.

ha ha fingers crossed :)

It sounds like she's not sure if she's found her niche, but I'd honestly let her get on with what she's doing.

Seriously what on earth would you rather she did, instead? Sit at home and twiddle her thumbs?

And it sounds like some people don't understand admin work very well. My mum did admin work for years. Before she retired, she ended up having to train a graduate to fill her shoes.

Nothing wrong with doing an apprenticeship. We all have to start somewhere.

Back in the day, I did a YTS (£27.50 a week). I was working in the job centre. I learnt how to use computers, customer service, finance and got offered a permanent role after 6 months.

I then did my assessor/training qualifications and then my CIPD qualifications. After the fantastic grounding I got as a 'trainee' and some cash in my pocket, I was able to move onto to better things.

Fast forward to now - Head of Department role, with a huge team and a nice salary to match.

College is right for some young people, as is Uni, but also apprenticeships have their place too. £500 a month when you are living at home is. To to be sniffed at. Not all employers take someone on for them to be a 'slave'.

I agree with one of YDL's points about them getting rid when the apprenticeship is over and taking on a new one to avoid paying a minimum wage.
My cousin is 19 and has just been on the end of this. Word is the place that just let her go has form for this
Tell her to do her research on any company she interviews with for an apprenticeship, ask them if they've taken an apprentice on before and if so, where are they now? Then she can make an informed decision about her future.

It's a shame when that happens. Our last one is still with us and the one before that was kept on and left for a promotion.

at 18 i think its common to change career paths. in fact i think its a good thing. better to do it young and get on the right track than be regretting it once you are older.

it sounds like work might be a good atmosphere for her and make her realise that she cant just mess things around. the only time i would worry is if she does start doing that and gets sacked or whatever.

fwiw i started in hairdressing and changed to admin after a year. i got employed 3 months into my apprenticeship and havent looked back. now at 30 i earn more than my dp who had a degree and is part way through post grad education. the only thing i regret is missing out on fun at uni but at the time i never wanted that so it is only a fleeting regret.

if she gets a good job and earns well there will be potential to turn her hands to other things in future with a bit of dedication if she chose to.

try not to worry she is still very young.

i was on £40 per week on my apprenticeship and paid £15 per week lodge. still managed a night out and new things if i saved £500 is a great wage and if she impresses there may be employment opportunities there, they dont have to wait until she has gained the qualfication.

I believe that the only viable way for an apprenticeship to work is if the person stays at home and doesn't need to contribute to living expenses as the wages are so low but you can't get any top up benefits (I have no first hand knowledge but an ex colleague had a daughter doing an apprenticeship and she had to stop as with her own place and a child, it was impossible to live on the wages.

Im a single parent on low income and actually got more in child benefit and tax credit than my DD gets for her apprenticeship wage. We are worse off even more as when DD was at college they paid for bus pass. We also now have to pay for dentist/optition/prescriptions etc so unfortunately I do have to take about half of her wage just to get by. I feel guilty taking it from her as she does work hard but luckily she understands.

Word of warning to anyone taking up what they think is 2 year apprenticeship at age of 18. The Government and apprenticeship websites state that "apprentices aged 19 and in their second year of apprenticeship get NMW".

Have found out since my DD started apprenticeship that some companies use loophole to get around this. For example they call the first year level 2 hairdressing and second year level 3 barbering. Because they have different course titles, the level 3 is classed as a first year level 3 so they can continue to pay apprentice wage.

From memory, don't you only work a few hours a day term time only? If that's right, then that's the role model she has so full time hours with few holidays will see very strange and long to her.

She will hopefully find something she enjoys, at least with work she will have the incentive of a wage compared to college which she obviously doesn't want to do.

It does sound as though she needs to do some thinking about her work ethic - or lack of it. What makes her think she can go through life copping out of things, not turning up, being late etc?

What did she decide in the end?