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Am I overreacting about this, is teh school reponse reasonable?

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crayola8 · 24/05/2015 15:03

I have name changed for this because eit will out me.
Last week my daughter came hom efrom school extremely distressed.
Whilst they were supposed to be dping a worksheet, a group of girls in one of her classes drew a picture of a naked woman (The picture was a stick drawing with massive boobs and nipples, and lots of pubic hair) They folded the paper up and wrote on the outside ' The picture is Minicrayola' and circulated it round the class.DD said everybody was laughing and looking at her but wouldn't tell her what was on the paper.She found it at the end the class left on a table.
I emailed the school about the incident and the names of teh girls who she thought were responsible.Later in teh day teh school rang me up saying they had taken a statement from the girls and ranting and raving because DD had made a mistake with the names ie she had included one girl who DD had thought was involved in drawing it , and not named one girl who the others said was involved.
The girls were told off and lost the remainderof their lunchtime after they had written the statement.The school then emailed me 'The girls were in a lunchtime detention this afternoon, and have been reminded of our expectations in school. Namely that we expect students to be learning in lessons, and not involved in off-task behaviours.'
I am fuming mad that the (male) teacher regards not concentrationg on lesons to be the issue here, more than humiliating a shy pubescent girl.

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Littlefish · 24/05/2015 16:42

Is this a single incident, or have there been others? If it is a single incident then I would not consider it to be bullying. It is a horrible thing to happen, and you are absolutely right to report it to the school. The incident has been dealt with and the perpetrators punished.

FuzzyWizard · 24/05/2015 16:45

Whilst I do think the school should absolutely deal with this as a bullying incident I do think you are being a bit dismissive of the poor girl who has been wrongfully punished for the incident. When you are 13/14 it's quite a big deal to stand up to the crowd and she has been treated like a bully despite being brave enough to stand up for a classmate. I don't think your DD should be blamed for the incident but I do think you need to be careful, when you accuse others of something, that you have your facts straight. I'm sure most parents would be upset if their DD came home upset having been in floods of tears because the school punished her, on no evidence other than the word of another student, for an incident she tried to stop.

crayola8 · 24/05/2015 17:13

FUZZYWIZARD why do you think the girl was punished? she wasn't!
DD was asked to name those she thought responsible, which she did to the best of her ability
.This is why the school take statements from everyone and investigate before they sanction anyone.So the girl was not punished she was just (understandably) upset that she had been called in.

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FuzzyWizard · 24/05/2015 17:40

Sorry having re read your posts I see that you didn't say she was punished. I'd gotten the impression that the girls had been kept in as punishment and that it had then come to light that one of the girls kept in had not been involved and that one that had been had not been kept in as she hadn't been mentioned.

aintgonnabenorematch · 24/05/2015 18:04

It wasn't an explicit drawing of your DD, it was a stick drawing with breasts and pubes that they put her name on.

It's silly stuff that kids do - the same as drawings of penises with pubes etc.

If it's part of a pattern of behaviour then it's bullying. If not, it's childish behaviour being well - childish.

Horrible that your DD was the target but there's nothing more sinister about it unless you can identify a pattern.

The school dealt with it. The people involved were punished. What else would you like them to do?

crayola8 · 24/05/2015 18:14

Thank you for your thoughts
I am aware that bullying refers to a pattern.But a 'bullying incident' is one incident which may or (hopefully) may not lead to a pattern.So I think that it is the correct term to use
I think a lot depends on whether you view the seriousness of an incident by its effect on the victim, or by the intentions of its purpetrators.
Not sure which is right?

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CamelHump · 24/05/2015 18:21

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crayola8 · 24/05/2015 18:30

Thanks
camelhump I am going to take your suggestion and email the school thanking them for their prompt action, and asking that it be logged as a bullying incident than general off task behaviour.

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Strictly1 · 24/05/2015 22:46

Unless it has happened before it happens again I wouldn't consider it bullying. A horrible incident but not bullying and therefore I would keep a note of it but not record it formally as bullying.

MayPolist · 24/05/2015 23:07

I am not sure why some posters seem to consider that a one-off incident is somehow OK and should pass unreported.
It it had been teenage boys drawing ,distributing and laughing at pictures of a named 13 yO girl's breasts and pubic hair would you8 consider that ok? Because you know boys have been put on the sex offenders register for doing the same thing with boob photos

TheNewStatesman · 25/05/2015 03:31

It is a bullying issue, and they should have been dealt with more severely.

nornironrock · 25/05/2015 07:46

Crayola, thanks - I wasn't trying to be an arse... Like I said before, you are absolutely right to be upset by this. I was bullied at secondary school, and I really wish someone had actually done something about it.

I'd be all over the school like a rash until this is properly dealt with....

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