Brie related accident

[Stoneysilence]

Dd (2) and I (8 weeks pg with number 2) just spent a very convivial half hour tucking into a plate of Brie. So far so yummy.

Then I remembered Brie is a banned substance in pregnancy.

Then I checked the use by date on the label (thinking about bacteria...) and it says 11th May!

What will happen?!! AIBU to think fook it, it was delicious anyway?

You're more likely to get listeria from fruit than from brie. It's all a load of bullshit.

My DS is 30. When he was on the way avocado was supposed to be bad for pg women - God alone knows who thought of that - but that never stopped DW and there is a healthy hunk who calls me Dad to prove that she was right!

Luis Now I am hungry. A meal which is not a curry has no right to exist unless it includes Brie.

What?? So I went through 9 months of Brie deprivation for nothing?

I still drank wine though (after the 12 week scan, and far less than my normal consumption, of course)

I craved everything I shouldn't have had when pregnant - it was the worst, most torturous, enforced diet ever!

Ahhh curry now you're talking. I had one of those weird, ultra-vivid pregnancy dreams about a delicious saag paneer last night...

I agree with pp. also re Brie, you know if it's off, it gives off a disgusting ammonia smell (like hair dye!). I'm sure you and baby will be fine :)

Stoneysilence You can (day-)dream about curry without pregnancy hormones - at least I bloody well hope you can because if you can't there's something very odd in my metabolism

I'm just impressed that 2 year old eats brie.

it doesn't matter if the cheese is pasteurised or not and it doesn't matter if you eat just a slice or the whole thing. The reason it is not recommended is listeria, which loves to live in soft mouldy cheeses. And yes, pregnant women in France are also told to avoid it.

However, listeria is very, very rare - there are just a couple of dozen pregnancy listeria cases per year in the UK, and you can get it from anywhere, last big outbreak in the US for example was melons. So don't panic.

Use by dates on cheese are ridiculous anyway. Your eyes and nose do a much better job of determining whether it is ok to eat.

My SIL told me she was disappointed in me for eating salami from the Sainsbury's deli counter and drinking a can of coke when I was pregnant .

I dislike cheese but I could never give up my cured meats when I was pregnant - eat away!

Brie is food of the gods!

That's the most sensible thing I've read on MN all day. stupid fucking gods not letting me eat their nectar

HazleNutt pasteurisation is used to kill the listeria, so pasteurised cheese milk etc is fine but unpasteurised is a no no.

The likelihood of getting listeriosis is pretty small, but listeria was one of the things I was careful about as the risk (possible outcome) is serious. I didn't worry about runny/raw eggs though.

The NHS doesn't mention anything about pasteurised brie afaik.

Anydrink - Hazelnutt was right; there is a listeria risk for soft cheeses regardless of pasteurisation. After the milk is pasteurised, there's still a wide window of cheese-making for listeria contamination, and soft mould cheeses like Brie, with a high water content and longish shelf life, are an ideal environment for it to multiply. There have been cases of listeria contamination from pasteurised cheese, as well as salad leaves, beam sprouts, etc.

But it's still a small enough risk in the general scheme of things. Personally, I was too risk-averse to do it!

If you're at all worried, bake Brie, Camembert, any other forbidden cheeses. The heat will kill any listeria and it's still food of the gods. And wash salad thoroughly

If you lie Brie, have you tried cambazola?? It's like the love child of Brie and Stilton

Spanish women are not given a list if odds to avoid, just to moderate their alcohol intake

I craved fried eggs through my last pregnancy. Had to have a runny yolk as that was the bit I was craving! But they were lion stamped eggs so they'd been UV treated so low risk.
I did treat myself to a baked camonbert cheese and I upset a waiter in a French restaurant when I didn't eat the fresh mayonnaise. Oh well.
Isn't reheated food a much greater risk? Especially rice?

I've never seen pasteurised Brie in supermarkets just the unpasteurised lovely stuff. I need Brie now!

I can only eat Brie cooked so its not a problem. Hate runny eggs, don't eat meat or most cheeses and not bothered about alcohol. Caffeine is the only diet issue for me during pregnancy if you discount feeling too sick to eat much of anything for the first 16 weeks.

Cambazola is the best. It's camembert injected with gorgonzola. Op, I know a woman who only found out she was pregnant at 8 months so had not obeyed any dictats and her baby is fine!