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AIBU to think this wasn't a waste of A&E time?

60 replies

LaLyra · 17/05/2015 15:29

On Tuesday night I was getting something out of the boot of my car and managed to whack my head. I'm not entirely sure how I misjudged it so badly, but I really caught it. I was sick a few minutes later, but put that down to the fact I'd not long gobbled down a rushed, late dinner (DH is away, kids were all at different activities, baby is teething - one of those days).

An hour later my 15 year old phoned MIL because I'd been sick another 4 times and had vomited up the painkillers that I'd taken and they hadn't had any effect on the headache (which was on a par pain wise with a migraine, but without the flashing lights/aura sensation). She came round and took me to A&E. I was there until 2am, at one point they debated if I should go to the next hospital as they have no CT scan facilities overnight, but they decided to stick with observation as I had only been sick once more just after arrival. They said that I needed kept an eye on and offered a bed for the night (If I was sick again they'd have sent me to the other hospital, if not they'd have decided on a CT in the morning), but the doctor gave me the option of going home if MIL stayed over and kept a close eye on me and I promised to go straight back or to other hospital if I was sick again, if the headache worsened or anything on a sheet of things happened. I chose to go home because as well as DS15 I had 4 other children at home. DS and twin DDs (12) are perfectly capable of looking after the younger two, but I'd rather be at home.

I had an appointment the next morning where the docs repeated the tests of the night before then let me go home with some more rules. At the baby clinic on Thursday morning the practise nurse doing baby's vaccination was concerned I was developing a black eye (bump was on back of head) and sent me back to the hospital. I said it was bags and me looking shit because I was knackered, but hospital disagreed and I was sent off for a CT scan, which came back clear. I've been told i have concussion, I've been given tablets to shake of the nausea as it was impossible and I still have a lingering headache now, couldn't even contemplate driving yet and MIL stayed until yesterday because she could see that I wasn't right.

So AIBU to tell my brother, who works for the NHS, abhors misuse of it, and has commented four times (and counting) today about people wasting A&E time with 'minor bumps' to fuck right off?

Would anyone have not gone to A&E in that situation?

He's a bloody git because he knows he's one of the people who can really make me doubt myself. I've been polite so far, but he'll keep going on and on and on and on and on because that's what he does. I can't stay at the park with the kids all afternoon and my SIL (other brother's wife) has made dinner so even if I had the car I couldn't leave as it'd be unfair on her.

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tobysmum77 · 17/05/2015 16:29

Within reason us mere mortals without medical training can't tell if we're time wasting or not. Of course broken nails aside....

VelvetRose · 17/05/2015 16:32

Yanbu AT ALL!!! Your brother is being very unfair indeed.

If it makes you feel any better I was in A and E because of a heart problem and the nurse was telling me her previous patient had come in with a small splinter in their finger! Hope you feel better soon!!

lostmymittens · 17/05/2015 16:38

Hey OP, have lots of Thanks and then some Cake.

I am not a medic but agree with everyone else who say that you did right going to A&E, FWIW.

May I gently suggest that you learn to "agree to disagree" with your DB, not just on this occasion but whenever the need arises.

By the sound of it, he played an important and positive role in your life. You can be grateful for this without feeling in his dept. However, maybe you could cut him some slack as well, as you describe his upbringing as very difficult Sad. Perhaps his job is a source of confidence and self-esteem for him so he might exaggerate his 'knowledge' of the health sector at times. Never mind, disengage and trust your self.

I hope you feel better soon Thanks.

Rafflesway · 17/05/2015 16:41

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giraffesCantPluckTheirEyebrows · 17/05/2015 16:42

whack your brother on the head with something hard?

KeepitDown · 17/05/2015 16:51

YANBU at all. My sister died in her early 20s from slipping and banging her head. She didn't want to go to hospital as she was "only sick a couple times".
She was bleeding in the brain and was dead by the next morning.

Not looking for sympathy, just want people to understand how serious head injuries can be, even if you are walking around "fine" afterward. You did the right thing.

InHidingToday · 17/05/2015 17:09

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pearpotter · 17/05/2015 17:16

I'd be tempted to whack bro's head hard with the car boot and ask if he would like a paracetemol. Tempted. I wouldn't actually recommend violence, of course. Grin

MammaTJ · 17/05/2015 17:39

Keepitdown, so sorry for your loss, but it is a perfect example of why people should go to A&E with head injuries.

You WNBU OP, you needed to go.

On a lighter note, my DD had just started crawling and I didn't realise how fast she was. She zoomed to an ironing board and pulled it on to herself.

She had a proper egg on her head, so we took her to MIU. They looked her over, kept us there for a while, then let us go home with the usual advisory letter.

It so amused me that it sais 'Should the patient be unable to walk or talk, they should be returned to the hospital immediately.'

She certainly could do neither at that point but I really did feel it would be a waste of NHS resources to take her back until she could! Grin

BertPuttocks · 17/05/2015 17:45

YANBU.

On a separate note, I really like the way your 15yr-old and MIL sprang into action to help you like that. If only your brother had even half as much empathy.

Hope you're feeling much better soon. Flowers

ChestyNut · 17/05/2015 17:54

YWNBU

And I'd point out to your DB that the people who are actually qualified to make decisions on whether people are wasting time deemed you were right to go Angry

GloGirl · 17/05/2015 18:12

I was about to type what Bert Puttocks said. Your family, brother aside, are lovely people Flowers

TheAssassinsGuild · 17/05/2015 18:54

You were completely correct to go to A&E. The actions of the trained healthcare professionals who treated you is evidence of that. Your brother is a knob who is talking out of his arse.

knackered69 · 17/05/2015 19:13

You were absolutely right to go to the ED (another HCP) xx

DoJo · 17/05/2015 19:33

Apart from anything, someone who is in sole charge of a baby needs to take extra care and be super vigilant about their own health because they are also responsible for the life of another person (plus the other children you have - even capable 15 year olds need their mums!). Martyring yourself when you have an injury like that can have serious consequences, and the NHS would have to spend FAR more on trying to rectify a brain injury that had been left to worsen than checking someone out an ascertaining the correct course of treatment in the first instance.
Also, your brother sounds like a nob. Ask him if he could find out how much it would cost the NHS to have the stick removed from his arse.

MyLittleFinger · 17/05/2015 19:37

I've had several weeks of concussion after banging my head, you will need lots of rest and will be very tired.

LaLyra · 18/05/2015 12:50

Keepitdown So sorry for your loss x

As usual my brother managed to turn it into him because the injured party. He mentioned it another couple of times which were basically ignored and then I ended up saying to him, really politely, "Look I know you don't agree, but the doctors and nurses I saw did. They offered me a bed for the night, they don't do that if they're not concerned."

He huffed a bit, rolled his eyes and commented about doctors having to waste their time dealing with people and other brother told him to give it a rest as we were never going to agree, which got a moan about how I had everyone looking out for me and yet I only appreciated the ones that told me what I wanted to hear which is obviously why MIL was phoned and not him (which I think is actually the crux of the issue).

My sister, who is better at speaking to him than me, said that she thought I was right, but even if I wasn't she was glad I had gone. She is quite good at diffusing situations and she said "I mean, even if you would roll your eyes about someone else going to A&E you don't mind so much when it's your family, do we? We're all kind of selfish like that. I'd rather LaLyra or OtherBrother wasted someone's time that took a chance because they are my LaLyra and OtherBrother." She was really casual and offhand, whereas I end up tripping over my words and sounding blunter than planned, but it really helped because it brought us on to stories of proper time wasting.

He was a bit quiet and left earlyish, but that's par for the course with him. He knows that the reason MIL got called is because DS is very close to his gran (DS is technically my step-son and his grandparents lived with him and DH for a while after his Mum passed away when he was little) and because she lives closer, is retired and can easily drop things for the children. It's much easier for her to rearrange a lunch than it is for one of my siblings to rearrange their work. Sometimes I think he just gets weird that he's not the number 1 person I turn to anymore. I wish he'd take the counselling that he's been offered numerous times, then he'd maybe understand why the other three of us have a different thought process now.

Other brother has the day off today and he and SIL 'stole' the baby overnight which has given me the day to myself after tipping the others out to school this morning which has been great as as a few of you mentioned, I'm really tired. I've never had concussion before so I wasn't really expecting to still feel rotten this far on.

Thank you everyone. Much appreciated x

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CountryMummy1 · 18/05/2015 13:32

My next door neighbour hit his head getting out of the car. 3 hours later he collapsed and died in the drive from a blood clot caused by the bump. So YANBU

squizita · 18/05/2015 14:38

OP siblings who "protect" or see other siblings in disfunction in childhood can sometimes need to control by minimising problems their adult siblings have.
Almost like saying to themselves "I fixed it. All ok now. Please don't have a problem, I'm all worn out saving you..."
It can become pretty disfunctional in itself!! Almost bullying/belittling or gaslight in to save themselves from memories of worry.

I would keep an eye tbh.

LaLyra · 19/05/2015 18:09

Squizita You are not the first person to say that actually.

He seems to switch between 'you don't have a problem' and 'if you have a problem only I can fix it'.

I'm the youngest of the four, by 9, 8 and 6 years, so they all sometimes have a 'baby sister' mentality, but the other two are much better at catching themselves and then laughing as they remember I'm not 10 anymore.

I do think the fact he's the only one of us who hasn't had counselling is part of it, but that's his choice. i'll keep an eye on it though. Thank you.

Thank you everyone.

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TheBoov · 19/05/2015 18:13

How are you feeling now?

LaLyra · 19/05/2015 18:17

Not too bad thanks TheBoov Haven't driven yet as I don't feel like concentration is 100%, but better than late last week so I'm happy with that. DH is home tonight as well which is helpful, I'll be able to have a few long lies which is always good.

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PYTT · 24/01/2022 18:02

Definitely not being unreasonable!

Mrsmophead · 24/01/2022 18:06

A&E is where I work. Head injury with multiple vomiting episodes needs seen and CT'd. End of. Head injury discharge advice tells you to return if you've a head ache not shifting with pain relief or episodes of vomit. Your brother is obviously not clinical. You 100percent did exactly the right thing.
I hope you feel better soon.

Chloemol · 24/01/2022 18:07

I would absolutely tell next time he comments to do one. And it wouldn’t be done politely, I would shout and scream

A&e we’re concerned enough to insist someone stayed with you
Tests repeated next day and advice given and practise nurse concerned, all medically trained, he is not

Then I would insist on an apology and that he will never comment again like this on anything

Sometimes losing it is what is needed