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To ask if you would appeal this?

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KenAdams · 08/05/2015 10:23

DH was driving the other night and pressed his brakes to stop at a red light before a roundabout. A bottle of water rolled from the back to under his brakes and as a result he couldn't press them. By the time he removed it and stopped, he was in the middle of the roundabout so obviously had to move out of the way and he was snapped by a camera. The notice of prosecution has arrived today. Would you appeal this?

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Anydrinkwilldo · 08/05/2015 13:14

No, it's a bug bear of mine. Do not leave loose bottles cans etc in the car. One of the mums of 2 school friends died as a can rolled under the brake as she was going down a hill, she couldn't brake and hit the wall opposite at high speed.

Floggingmolly · 08/05/2015 13:17

You seriously imagine this wasn't his fault?????

NerrSnerr · 08/05/2015 13:23

Fuck. I'd be very surprised too if it rolled from the back. Were you in the car at the time? Are you sure he didn't just run the red light and is looking for a (poor) excuse?

ShaynePunim · 08/05/2015 13:25

Wow. Get him to take some responsibility. This is actually scary that people think stuff like that "isn't their fault".

ImperialBlether · 08/05/2015 13:27

A friend of mine had a bottle wedged under the passenger seat and it knocked the airbag cables out.

Of course you can't appeal, OP.

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KenAdams · 08/05/2015 13:29

I was just asking the question so you can stop vilifying me. That's fine if its his fault. He'll accept the fine. I just wasn't sure what the situation was when something like that happened. No, never had any fines or points before.

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CrystalHaze · 08/05/2015 13:31

Agreed, Shayne - I find it how many people think they're too bloody special to be held accountable for their own stupidity and negligence.

Wonder if the OP will ever show her face again and acknowledge that the suggestion that her DP has grounds for an appeal is fuckwittery of the highest order?

CrystalHaze · 08/05/2015 13:32

Oops, cross posted with the OP! Welcome back

CrystalHaze · 08/05/2015 13:33

Out of curiosity, who else's fault could it have been, if not his?

sparechange · 08/05/2015 14:07

Wilford
He absolutely should NOT have used the handbrake, unless you want a very out of control car

whois · 08/05/2015 14:10

hes a total tool for having a bottle of water on the floor. What an idiot. Thank God he didn't hit anyone.

whois · 08/05/2015 14:12

That's fine if its his fault. He'll accept the fine

Obviously it's his fault. Who else's couldn't have been? The water bottle company for making a bottle that fits under the pedals? The car manufacturer for not putting in a water bottle pedal net?

AuntyMag10 · 08/05/2015 14:13

You were just asking a question?
Who on earths fault did you think it was. Anyone with a concept of responsibility would not even have asked this.

CrystalHaze · 08/05/2015 14:15

Kind of scary that people with so little common sense and such a lack of personal accountability are allowed to be in charge of motor vehicles.

FishWithABicycle · 08/05/2015 14:15

Hideously dangerous driving to have something loose in the car that could roll like this. Don't appeal, just thank his lucky stars he didn't kill anyone, clear out the crap from the car, and in future drinks are only in the car in square-sided bottles that don't roll and fit in cup holders.

wooldonor · 08/05/2015 14:19

I'm sure lots of people have had something rolling around the car that they weren't aware of, there's lots of holier than thouness on this thread but of course he shouldn't be appealing it. What would he even say if he did?

AuntyMag10 · 08/05/2015 14:20

Agree Crystal
The lack of common sense from this op is mind boggling. How do you function with daily situations.

ShadowFire · 08/05/2015 14:26

I would have thought that if he appeals on those grounds, he could make things worse for himself.

Surely being unable to break because you've left a bottle of water where it can roll under the pedals could be classed as driving without due care and attention / dangerous driving? That could result in a worse penalty than 3 points and a fine for running a red light at a roundabout.

Hoppinggreen · 08/05/2015 14:32

So firstly the incident was still his fault so no you shouldn't appeal.
Secondly IF this was grounds for appeal how couid you possibly prove it even happened like that?
He should be grateful he didn't cause an accident

CrystalHaze · 08/05/2015 14:34

Nope, wooldonor, never ever had anything loose rolling around in the car for this exact reason.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 08/05/2015 14:59

One of my scariest driving experiences was while driving along a quiet road (thankfully so I was able to coast to the kerb) and my sandle got stuck. They were a 'Birkie' type with a wedge sole and three straps.
The wedge heel got, well, wedged and because the sole was stiff , I couldn't twist my foot away.

I've never driven in sandles since but every year, I see loads of people do.

Hope it never happens to anyone, it's frightening .

Wilford · 08/05/2015 16:16

Sparechange apart from being a parking brake obviously, it is also designed to double as an emergency brake in the event of brake failure. True the back wheels will lock up but at least the car will stop

sparechange · 08/05/2015 16:31

Wilford
Nope...
"Although sometimes known as an emergency brake, using it in any emergency where the footbrake is still operational is likely to badly upset the brake balance of the car and vastly increase the likelihood of loss of control of the vehicle, for example by initiating a rear-wheel skid. Additionally, the stopping force provided by using the handbrake is small and would not significantly aid in stopping the vehicle."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parking_brake

Wilford · 08/05/2015 21:14

Fair enoughalthough I have used it in an emergency stop myself before. And if I was in another emergency and had no brakes I'd do it again without hesitation!

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KenAdams · 09/05/2015 09:19

How do I function? Quite well thank you.

Thanks for the responses anyway. He won't appeal. I've asked him all the questions you have and he couldn't answer them so I think he got his answer there.

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